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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 5399335">Yes, because they begin to moan about why the party didn't help him.  Why the DM didn't make it easier for him, how this shouldn't happen to him.  Or they get pissy over why the party(who is now a man short) refuses to rescue him from the nigh-impenetrable fortress of the King's dungeon.   When a player thinks it's their right to do things that will have consequences for the entire game, not just themselves, that's the problem. Spoken like a true responsibility dodgder.  It's always the party's fault, the DM's fault, no, it's never YOUR fault for doing something so incredibly stupid that you knew you wouldn't get backed up on. That's exactly my point.  People who pull such maneuvers clearly don't understand that there are consequences for their actions.  They expect that because they are they rogue that entitles them to practice completly lawless behaviour and not get punished for it. Robbing the King is not "risky but reasonable".  It's stupid.  The best of crime lords don't try that except on the rarest of occassions and they do so with incredible preparation.  They don't just randomly decide to pick-pocket the King as he's walking down the street with a full legion of guards around him.  I do, particularly when the King has nothing against your party, or especially when the King is offering patronage to the players.  A mild reaction from a King over this sort of thing is immediate execution.  Players who seek these sorts of situations out, they shoot the guy talking to your character because he leans in to speak softly.  They rob the King because he happens to be within arms-reach.  This is game-destructive behaviour that disregards the game, the players, and the related good nature of things in favor of a "do what I want, everyone else be damned" attitude. It's one I don't take lightly, as the point of the game is GROUP play, cohesion and working together to achieve amazing new heights.  Not individualistic game-destroying self-righteousness.  If you have no intention of working with the other players, then why are you here?</blockquote>

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