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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5402230" data-attributes="member: 22779">Beginning of the End - please go back and reread what I wrote.&nbsp; Note, there are numerous caveats in what I put there.&nbsp; Things like, &quot;can&quot; and &quot;possibly&quot; and &quot;could happen&quot;.&nbsp; I think I was pretty even handed in saying that either way can work, depending on the group.&nbsp; I'm certainly not arguing in favour of one or the other.&nbsp; Admittedly I prefer a more streamlined game.&nbsp; I do.&nbsp; I'm certainly not going to appologise for that.&nbsp; I'm not really interested in watching a train wreck because Bob decides to be a prat.&nbsp; This is a situation that can easily spiral out of control.&nbsp; Bob's character is attacked by the guards, the rest of the party steps in to help Bob, one TPK later and we're back to 1st level.All because Bob would think it was funny to do something blindingly stupid.Again, this is only one possible outcome.&nbsp; It might turn into gaming gold and everyone has a fantastic time.&nbsp; Unfortunately, IME, when players start doing this, they're more interested in their own fun than the fun of the group.&nbsp; I don't play with people like that any more, so, it doesn't come up in my groups.&nbsp; (But, thanks for the cheap shot calling my players disfunctional.)Hey, you don't like this style of gaming.&nbsp; I get that.&nbsp; That's totally fair.&nbsp; But, please, don't mischaracterize what I was saying as some sort of condemnation of playstyle.&nbsp; Both styles have their strengths and drawbacks.&nbsp; I prefer one over the other, but, I'm certainly not saying that the other one is wrong.Just why it's wrong for me</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5402230, member: 22779"] Beginning of the End - please go back and reread what I wrote. Note, there are numerous caveats in what I put there. Things like, "can" and "possibly" and "could happen". I think I was pretty even handed in saying that either way can work, depending on the group. I'm certainly not arguing in favour of one or the other. Admittedly I prefer a more streamlined game. I do. I'm certainly not going to appologise for that. I'm not really interested in watching a train wreck because Bob decides to be a prat. This is a situation that can easily spiral out of control. Bob's character is attacked by the guards, the rest of the party steps in to help Bob, one TPK later and we're back to 1st level. All because Bob would think it was funny to do something blindingly stupid. Again, this is only one possible outcome. It might turn into gaming gold and everyone has a fantastic time. Unfortunately, IME, when players start doing this, they're more interested in their own fun than the fun of the group. I don't play with people like that any more, so, it doesn't come up in my groups. (But, thanks for the cheap shot calling my players disfunctional.) Hey, you don't like this style of gaming. I get that. That's totally fair. But, please, don't mischaracterize what I was saying as some sort of condemnation of playstyle. Both styles have their strengths and drawbacks. I prefer one over the other, but, I'm certainly not saying that the other one is wrong. Just why it's wrong [u]for me[/u] [/QUOTE]

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