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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5402627" data-attributes="member: 4937">I recommend more politeness in the future.  My reading comprehension is not in question.So, you are suggesting that the world conforms itself to certain outcomes which the group is going to be more okay with?  Are you sure you object to railroading?  Because that sounds to me a lot like illusionism.  And once you have illusionism you are just one more convienent rationalization from a railroad if you aren't yet already on board, which at this point I require some convincing of.  Seems to me that you snuck on the back of the train but ended up in the same station as the DMs you have been arguing with.  I'm admitting to putting the party on rails for a brief time 'for their own' good and for my own reasons.  You just admitted to doing the same thing, but with alot more illusionism and rationalization.It may be, but since I feel the same about you, let's refrain from making that the basis of our understanding of each other.I know that.  But let's look at those four outcomes again:Afterwhich, you get the mission from the King - who is none the wiser about the theft - to clear out Norwold.And if you are captured, well you can be sentenced to clear out Norworld.And if you fail to escape, well you can be sentenced to clear out Norworld.Like we didn't see that one coming.   In practice, I'm willing to bet virtually every 'outcome' ends up in the same place, because by your own admission: "why would I take a situation which can be adjudicated in so many different ways and choose the one thing the group isn't going to be okay with?"See, we've already established what sort of DM you are.  You are the DM who makes the world change to conform to what will be interesting for the group, because well a TPK would be an undesirable outcome (unless everyone wanted that).  We've already established that you adjudicate in ways that you think lead to the interesting story.  You're a conductor, and you are on the train.</blockquote>

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