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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 5414669" data-attributes="member: 80487">I think the cited quip was -- intentionally or not -- a telling comment on the class of play with which the wag was acquainted. Able players get things done without needing a &quot;Black Sox&quot; scandal every game!You've got that backwards! The games simply were what they were, as described in the rules-books. Nowadays, what used to be called a &quot;campaign&quot; gets called a &quot;sandbox&quot;. That's not the only way to use the D&amp;D rules, but it is the way the rules specify for setting up a campaign.Likewise, we can play smaller scenarios of Rise and Decline of the Third Reich -- but the multiplayer campaign game is what it is.&quot;Railroading&quot; is an offense regardless of whether we are playing a campaign or a limited scenario. It is just the case that they are two significantly different things.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------The scope of the campaign game is ever so much greater! We can use a subset of the Checkers board and pieces to play Tic Tac Toe, and that may be fun. To get confined to a 3x3 area of the board while trying to play Checkers would be infuriating!-------------------------------------------------------------------------------The only way to play the game is to play the game. Breaking the rules is something else. When it's a violation of the letter of the rules, we call it &quot;cheating&quot;. When it's a breach of faith with the spirit of the game and the trust of the players, but the rules applicable are not so cut and dried, some other term may seem meet.People in another place (and perhaps another era) might have said, &quot;That's just not cricket.&quot; Now, baseball literally is not cricket -- but it's not called cricket, either. We don't expect them to be the same game. We don't get upset over &quot;violations&quot; of rules that simply do not apply.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 5414669, member: 80487"] I think the cited quip was -- intentionally or not -- a telling comment on the class of play with which the wag was acquainted. Able players get things done without needing a "Black Sox" scandal every game! You've got that backwards! The games simply were what they were, as described in the rules-books. Nowadays, what used to be called a "campaign" gets called a "sandbox". That's not the only way to use the D&D rules, but it is the way the rules specify for setting up a campaign. Likewise, we can play smaller scenarios of [I]Rise and Decline of the Third Reich[/I] -- but the multiplayer campaign game is what it is. "Railroading" is an offense [U]regardless[/U] of whether we are playing a campaign or a limited scenario. It is just the case that they are two significantly [U]different things[/U]. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The [B]scope[/B] of the campaign game is ever so much greater! We can use a subset of the Checkers board and pieces to play Tic Tac Toe, and that may be fun. To get confined to a 3x3 area of the board while trying to play Checkers would be infuriating! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The only way to play the game is to play the game. Breaking the rules is something else. When it's a violation of the letter of the rules, we call it "cheating". When it's a breach of faith with the spirit of the game and the trust of the players, [U]but the rules applicable are not so cut and dried[/U], some other term may seem meet. People in another place (and perhaps another era) might have said, "That's just not cricket." Now, baseball literally is not cricket -- but it's not [I]called[/I] cricket, either. We don't expect them to be the same game. We don't get upset over "violations" of rules that simply do not apply. [/QUOTE]

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