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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5424809" data-attributes="member: 18280">You mean apart from "Since I'm being told that older editions contained all sorts of rules for tactical play, let's see an example."?  If you were not arguing that 1e didn't have rules for tactical play, I wonder why you are questioning what you are told.The extremely strong implication of questioning every statement that tactical options exist in 1e is that you do not believe that they do.  When you continue despite being given evidence to the contrary, the extremely strong implication is that you believe that the opinion (that there are no or few tactical options in 1e) is correct regardless of the evidence that it is not.EDIT:  And, of course, Jacob Marley has pointed out the exact quote.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Not only does it have a demonstrable mechanical impact in 1e, it has a demonstrative mechanical impact in every edition.  It probably has a demonstrative mechanical impact in every rpg.Consider:  Even when all opponents are exactly the same, it often makes sense for PCs to concentrate fire on one or two targets, rather than choose targets at random.  That way, they have a greater potential to reduce the amount of damage they receive.  In 1e, in fact, there are several creatures who offer an advantage when one targets specific body parts.  This might be the eye stalks of a beholder, or avoiding the better AC of a lion's mane.No one is jumping up and down.But The Shaman is right when he says that 1e offers tactical options, and he is right when he says that how you played it around your tables is not how the game was written.  That you failed to avail yourselves of the rules does not reflect upon the rules themselves.In a number of threads, I have noted that your posting has been much more even-handed of late.  I have been happy to have opportunity to XP you for it, and I have been happy to point it out in at least one thread.I am the pot calling the kettle black, I am sure, but I'd just like to give you the opportunity to come back from the Dark Side on this topic.  Tactical options exist in 1e.  That is an objective fact.  If you didn't use them, that will surely colour your experience of 1e, much like not using skill challenges will change what 4e feels like.  But your experience is not an artifact of the rules; it is an artifact of a failure to use the rules available.RC</blockquote>

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