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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4447055" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>You're taking yet another interpretation - your example would grant an extra secondary attack based on the outcome of the first secondary attack. That's not what happens at all, so rewriting it that way doesn't address the argument being made.</p><p></p><p>The way Rain of Blows is written, there are two primary attacks.</p><p></p><p>Let's say you're using a longsword. You use Rain of Blows.</p><p></p><p>You make a Str vs AC attack. You hit and deal 1[W] + Str damage. Since you aren't using a light blade, a spear, or a flail, there's no secondary attack.</p><p></p><p>Now you make another Str vs AC attack on the same target. You hit and deal 1[W] + Str damage. Since you aren't using a light blade, a spear, or a flail, there's no secondary attack.</p><p></p><p>You have now satisfied the "two attacks" portion of the power.</p><p></p><p>Now let's say you're using a flail. You use Rain of Blows.</p><p></p><p>You make a Str vs AC attack. You hit and deal 1[W] + Str damage. Since you are using a flail, there's a secondary attack - can be same target or different target, Str vs AC. If you hit, you deal 1[W] + Str damage; if you miss, you don't. Whether you hit or miss with this secondary attack has no bearing on the rest of the power.</p><p></p><p>Now you make another Str vs AC attack on your original target. You hit and deal 1[W] + Str damage. Since you are using a flail, there's a secondary attack - can be same target or different target, Str vs AC. If you hit, you deal 1[W] + Str damage; if you miss, you don't. Whether you hit or miss with this secondary attack has no bearing on the rest of the power.</p><p></p><p>Neither secondary attack can trigger another secondary attack; only the two attacks defined in the "Attack" line can trigger a secondary attack. Your rewrite has a secondary attack triggering another secondary attack; the line you added is not only unnecessary, but changes the behaviour of the power (potentially granting <em>six</em> attacks, not four!).</p><p></p><p>There are two primary attacks, and each of those attacks has the following effect:</p><p><em>1[W] + Strength modifier damage.</em></p><p><em>Weapon: If you’re wielding a light blade, a spear, or a flail and have Dexterity 15 or higher, make a secondary attack.</em></p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4447055, member: 1656"] You're taking yet another interpretation - your example would grant an extra secondary attack based on the outcome of the first secondary attack. That's not what happens at all, so rewriting it that way doesn't address the argument being made. The way Rain of Blows is written, there are two primary attacks. Let's say you're using a longsword. You use Rain of Blows. You make a Str vs AC attack. You hit and deal 1[W] + Str damage. Since you aren't using a light blade, a spear, or a flail, there's no secondary attack. Now you make another Str vs AC attack on the same target. You hit and deal 1[W] + Str damage. Since you aren't using a light blade, a spear, or a flail, there's no secondary attack. You have now satisfied the "two attacks" portion of the power. Now let's say you're using a flail. You use Rain of Blows. You make a Str vs AC attack. You hit and deal 1[W] + Str damage. Since you are using a flail, there's a secondary attack - can be same target or different target, Str vs AC. If you hit, you deal 1[W] + Str damage; if you miss, you don't. Whether you hit or miss with this secondary attack has no bearing on the rest of the power. Now you make another Str vs AC attack on your original target. You hit and deal 1[W] + Str damage. Since you are using a flail, there's a secondary attack - can be same target or different target, Str vs AC. If you hit, you deal 1[W] + Str damage; if you miss, you don't. Whether you hit or miss with this secondary attack has no bearing on the rest of the power. Neither secondary attack can trigger another secondary attack; only the two attacks defined in the "Attack" line can trigger a secondary attack. Your rewrite has a secondary attack triggering another secondary attack; the line you added is not only unnecessary, but changes the behaviour of the power (potentially granting [i]six[/i] attacks, not four!). There are two primary attacks, and each of those attacks has the following effect: [I]1[W] + Strength modifier damage. Weapon: If you’re wielding a light blade, a spear, or a flail and have Dexterity 15 or higher, make a secondary attack.[/I] -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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