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<blockquote data-quote="Runestar" data-source="post: 4447847" data-attributes="member: 72317"><p>But you neglected to mention the fact that for sweeping blow, the multiple attacks are spread out evenly amongst many enemies, while for rain of blows, they can be concentrated on a single enemy.</p><p></p><p>Under most normal circumstances, I would prefer to quickly focus fire on a single enemy and take each down ASAP, rather than slowly chip away at a horde of foes. In the former, an enemy that is killed that much more quickly cannot retaliate, and I have thus benefited by taking less damage in return. </p><p></p><p>In the latter, while I may be (arguably) dealing more damage as a whole, I am also taking more damage in return, since I will have that many foes attacking me in the subsequent round. And they still fight every bit as effectively regardless of whether they are at full hp or just 1 hp. This makes sweeping blow useful only as a minion-sweeper, something which is situational at best and downright useless at worst, because to maximize its usefulness, you need your DM to use enough minions, and for them to swarm you all at one go.</p><p></p><p>This makes sweeping blow somewhat unwieldy. To maximize its potential, the fighter needs to put himself in a rather dangerous and undesirable position (even as a defender, I would prefer to limit his exposure to no more than 2 enemies at any 1 time). Conversely, no such limitations exist with rain of blows. Any time I can reach a foe, I am assured automatically of 2-4 attacks.</p><p></p><p>Basically, if you compare all the 3rd lv encounter powers a fighter gets, rain of blow's damage output vastly outstrips what the rest are capable of. Maybe not broken, but it still comes across as still being extremely strong.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Runestar, post: 4447847, member: 72317"] But you neglected to mention the fact that for sweeping blow, the multiple attacks are spread out evenly amongst many enemies, while for rain of blows, they can be concentrated on a single enemy. Under most normal circumstances, I would prefer to quickly focus fire on a single enemy and take each down ASAP, rather than slowly chip away at a horde of foes. In the former, an enemy that is killed that much more quickly cannot retaliate, and I have thus benefited by taking less damage in return. In the latter, while I may be (arguably) dealing more damage as a whole, I am also taking more damage in return, since I will have that many foes attacking me in the subsequent round. And they still fight every bit as effectively regardless of whether they are at full hp or just 1 hp. This makes sweeping blow useful only as a minion-sweeper, something which is situational at best and downright useless at worst, because to maximize its usefulness, you need your DM to use enough minions, and for them to swarm you all at one go. This makes sweeping blow somewhat unwieldy. To maximize its potential, the fighter needs to put himself in a rather dangerous and undesirable position (even as a defender, I would prefer to limit his exposure to no more than 2 enemies at any 1 time). Conversely, no such limitations exist with rain of blows. Any time I can reach a foe, I am assured automatically of 2-4 attacks. Basically, if you compare all the 3rd lv encounter powers a fighter gets, rain of blow's damage output vastly outstrips what the rest are capable of. Maybe not broken, but it still comes across as still being extremely strong.:erm: [/QUOTE]
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