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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 4412591" data-attributes="member: 224"><p>No rudeness meant. I didn't quite "get" your explanation. Perhaps you could spell it out more clearly?</p><p></p><p>Or, perhaps someone else can build upon your previous explanation. That's what the internets are all about, after all. Your post provides the springboard for a deeper discussion. And that's a Good Thing(tm).</p><p>That's not what I suggested. Perhaps you missed my ending question: "<em>This Ftr Daily is 5th level. How does it compare to higher level Ftr Dailies?</em>"</p><p></p><p>For example, <strong>Rain of Steel </strong>(Ftr Daily 5) does 1[W] damage to all ememies adjacent to you at the start of their turn, and does that for the entire encounter.</p><p></p><p><strong>Thicket of Blades </strong>(Ftr Daily 9) does 3[W]+Str to all ememies adjacent to you, and the target(s) are slowed [save ends]. That's better than Rain of Steel over a single round, but over several rounds (as most fights are), Rain of Steel is much better. And the slowed condition from Thicket of Blades overlaps with the Ftr Combat Challenge feature, so it's not all that good.</p><p></p><p>Put another way: "Which would you rather have: <strong>Rain of Steel </strong>(Ftr Daily 5) or <strong>Thicket of Blades </strong>(Ftr Daily 9)?" If the higher level (but similar) power is less desirable, there's something fishy going on.</p><p></p><p>But then you could say: "Sure, Thicket of Blades isn't as good, but <strong>Unyielding Avalanche </strong>(Ftr Daily 15 -stance) is even better than Rain of Steel, as you'd expect from a power 10 levels higher. And then there's <strong>Devastation's Wake </strong>(Ftr Daily 19), and <strong>Reaper's Stance </strong>(Ftr Daily 25)! Don't you see? It's all balanced acording to character level, as it should....."</p><p></p><p>...and so on. That's how we could proceed. Or not. You are - as always - free to ignore a post. And assume I'm being rude, which is also your right.</p><p></p><p>You are a long-time member of this board, and I respect your opinion. Nothing more than that. I hope that's okay...... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nail, post: 4412591, member: 224"] No rudeness meant. I didn't quite "get" your explanation. Perhaps you could spell it out more clearly? Or, perhaps someone else can build upon your previous explanation. That's what the internets are all about, after all. Your post provides the springboard for a deeper discussion. And that's a Good Thing(tm). That's not what I suggested. Perhaps you missed my ending question: "[I]This Ftr Daily is 5th level. How does it compare to higher level Ftr Dailies?[/I]" For example, [B]Rain of Steel [/B](Ftr Daily 5) does 1[W] damage to all ememies adjacent to you at the start of their turn, and does that for the entire encounter. [B]Thicket of Blades [/B](Ftr Daily 9) does 3[W]+Str to all ememies adjacent to you, and the target(s) are slowed [save ends]. That's better than Rain of Steel over a single round, but over several rounds (as most fights are), Rain of Steel is much better. And the slowed condition from Thicket of Blades overlaps with the Ftr Combat Challenge feature, so it's not all that good. Put another way: "Which would you rather have: [B]Rain of Steel [/B](Ftr Daily 5) or [B]Thicket of Blades [/B](Ftr Daily 9)?" If the higher level (but similar) power is less desirable, there's something fishy going on. But then you could say: "Sure, Thicket of Blades isn't as good, but [B]Unyielding Avalanche [/B](Ftr Daily 15 -stance) is even better than Rain of Steel, as you'd expect from a power 10 levels higher. And then there's [B]Devastation's Wake [/B](Ftr Daily 19), and [B]Reaper's Stance [/B](Ftr Daily 25)! Don't you see? It's all balanced acording to character level, as it should....." ...and so on. That's how we could proceed. Or not. You are - as always - free to ignore a post. And assume I'm being rude, which is also your right. You are a long-time member of this board, and I respect your opinion. Nothing more than that. I hope that's okay...... ;) [/QUOTE]
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