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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 1679631" data-attributes="member: 20741">It's an obstacle in the dunegon to be overcome with a skill check and  deadly damage taken in the event of failure.They serve the same function in game terms - they just test a different skill. They are both "traps."No I would not call it an unjust death. I'd call that death as a result of:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">when the PC is otherwise engaged in plainly stupid play and you have telegraphed a potentially dangerous result or otherwise warned the PC of the consequences of this sort of reckless behavior before recently ( or this time specifically) (The RPG version of the Darwin Awards). </li> </ul>Trying to swim in half-plate is plainly and obviously stupid.If you are saying the module presents the danger of the bridge as plainly obvious trying to cross it in armor as the equivalent of a Darwin Award, then your impression of the appropriateness of the result makes sense.But that's not what Mordfane said; moreover, it's pretty clear that's not what the player thought either. If you care to drop me a note at my e-mail address to give me the module title, I'd like to see if I have it to give it a read - as I am now intrigued with the context & nature of the threat of the obstacle.</blockquote>