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<blockquote data-quote="Mathew_Freeman" data-source="post: 749177" data-attributes="member: 1846"><p>Keith, just how available do you think 500gp diamonds are?</p><p></p><p>Taking one part of the 'costs' of the spell and seperating it gives somewhat of a false view.</p><p></p><p>Let's look at <strong>all</strong> of the costs together. To cast raise dead, first of all you have to find a cleric of at least 9th level, which may or may not be easy, depending on campaign setting, location etc. The cleric must also agree to cast the spell, which he may not do on grounds of religion, background - a hundred reasons.</p><p></p><p>The body has to be whole. That is stated explicitly in the rules. A creature who has been turned into an undead creature or killed by a death effect can't be brought back with this spell. These are also potential problems (for example in S'mons games, intelligent enemies routinely hack off the heads of fallen foes to prevent use of this spell).</p><p></p><p>Then once you have you cleric, and your dead body which died less than 1day per caster level of the cleric, you still have to have a 500gp diamond. I refer you hear to threads about average income of a D&D person - 500gp is a lot of money unless you're an active adventurer. Most NPC's aren't going to waste their resources having a diamond sitting about when that could pay for so many other things.</p><p></p><p>And lastly, the subjects soul must be free and willing to return. Again, many possibilities.</p><p></p><p>So when you consider all the things that could stop the use of the spell, I don't think it's much of a problem. Also note another powerful 5th level spell - <em>commune</em>. This is the point at which the character gains the ability to speak directly with his God. Raising the dead under those limitations seems about balanced with that to me.</p><p></p><p>sorry to get all argumentative on you, but I think people treat this spell too lightly. It's much harder to get raised than you think.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mathew_Freeman, post: 749177, member: 1846"] Keith, just how available do you think 500gp diamonds are? Taking one part of the 'costs' of the spell and seperating it gives somewhat of a false view. Let's look at [b]all[/b] of the costs together. To cast raise dead, first of all you have to find a cleric of at least 9th level, which may or may not be easy, depending on campaign setting, location etc. The cleric must also agree to cast the spell, which he may not do on grounds of religion, background - a hundred reasons. The body has to be whole. That is stated explicitly in the rules. A creature who has been turned into an undead creature or killed by a death effect can't be brought back with this spell. These are also potential problems (for example in S'mons games, intelligent enemies routinely hack off the heads of fallen foes to prevent use of this spell). Then once you have you cleric, and your dead body which died less than 1day per caster level of the cleric, you still have to have a 500gp diamond. I refer you hear to threads about average income of a D&D person - 500gp is a lot of money unless you're an active adventurer. Most NPC's aren't going to waste their resources having a diamond sitting about when that could pay for so many other things. And lastly, the subjects soul must be free and willing to return. Again, many possibilities. So when you consider all the things that could stop the use of the spell, I don't think it's much of a problem. Also note another powerful 5th level spell - [i]commune[/i]. This is the point at which the character gains the ability to speak directly with his God. Raising the dead under those limitations seems about balanced with that to me. sorry to get all argumentative on you, but I think people treat this spell too lightly. It's much harder to get raised than you think. [/QUOTE]
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