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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6046319">No, Savage Species is about as close to balanced math as Korean MMOs are to balanced classes. Using the rules to be creative is not the same as DM fiat.  There's an important difference.You can for example, take a human, give them the "half fiend" template(LA+4) and then stack on 3 levels of X class for a ECL *class* of 8.  It's a perfectly legit way to build an NPC or a character in 3.5.  Templates are frankly, amazing.  I mean you can make such silly things as a half-dragon(LA+2 pathfdiner, +3 3.X) vampire(LA+2) Goliath(LA+1) with 2 levels in Bard for a very creative ECL 8/9 NPC, and use the exact same rules to build a PC as well.The problem I feel with taking a creature and breaking it down is that it's complicated.  It's much easier in 3.X to take a creature and build it up, which the rules provide ample material for.</blockquote>