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<blockquote data-quote="Gansk" data-source="post: 4860502" data-attributes="member: 16383"><p>Rake attacks usually come in pairs - they represent attacks from the hind legs of the creature.</p><p></p><p>Normally, when a creature attacks while grappling, it is limited to one attack at -4 to hit AC. If the grapple came as a result of an improved grab, then the one attack comes from the appendage that grabbed the victim. Rake attacks are the exception to this rule. So a lion should be able to attack three times while grappling, once with a claw and twice with its hind legs. The rake attacks do not incur the normal -4 penalty.</p><p></p><p>Note that grapplers can choose instead to use opposed grapple checks to do damage. Rake attacks do not apply when a creature uses this option. The number of opposed grapple checks are based on the creature's BAB - they function like iterative attacks.</p><p></p><p>This is simply my interpretation of the 3.5 rules. There is a lot of a debate over grappling and the rules are vague when it applies to creatures.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gansk, post: 4860502, member: 16383"] Rake attacks usually come in pairs - they represent attacks from the hind legs of the creature. Normally, when a creature attacks while grappling, it is limited to one attack at -4 to hit AC. If the grapple came as a result of an improved grab, then the one attack comes from the appendage that grabbed the victim. Rake attacks are the exception to this rule. So a lion should be able to attack three times while grappling, once with a claw and twice with its hind legs. The rake attacks do not incur the normal -4 penalty. Note that grapplers can choose instead to use opposed grapple checks to do damage. Rake attacks do not apply when a creature uses this option. The number of opposed grapple checks are based on the creature's BAB - they function like iterative attacks. This is simply my interpretation of the 3.5 rules. There is a lot of a debate over grappling and the rules are vague when it applies to creatures. [/QUOTE]
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