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RAKSASHA (Limited Magic Immunity) X Empyrean (Bolt)
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<blockquote data-quote="jrowland" data-source="post: 6490957" data-attributes="member: 94389"><p>I agree. But, I am not talking about spells. I am talking about a monsters Ranged Spell Attack for the purposes of a Rakshasa's immunity. Comparing it <em>loosely</em> with spells is fine, since the Rakshasa's immunity is called out for spells.</p><p></p><p>Why do I go through the mental gymnastics? What if another creature has a 3d6 bolt ranged spell attack? If I go with some people, its a ranged spell attack, not a spell, so not immune. Others definitely immune since a 3d6 ranged spell attack is below the immunity threshold no matter how you figure, but so is 7d6 bolt. But that is an all or nothing approach. If a CR23 empyrean can't hit a rakshasa then its basically immune to any spell attack from another monster ( I haven't combed the MM to see just how many monsters the rakshasa is immune to that it probably shouldn't be assuming PC spell rules, but I think its safe to assume if its immune to a CR 23 monsters spell attack, its immune most other monsters). That doesn't feel right.</p><p></p><p>By using a rough dice = spell level equivalent for the purposes of immunity it opens the rakshasa to spell attacks from tough monsters which feels right, but keeps them immune to weaker monsters spell attacks which also feels right. </p><p></p><p>Once again, I am not claiming BOLT with 7d6 is equal to a 7th level spell...only that for the purposes of a rakshasa's immunity, dice=spell level is good first approximation for it to overcome a rakshasa's immunity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jrowland, post: 6490957, member: 94389"] I agree. But, I am not talking about spells. I am talking about a monsters Ranged Spell Attack for the purposes of a Rakshasa's immunity. Comparing it [I]loosely[/I] with spells is fine, since the Rakshasa's immunity is called out for spells. Why do I go through the mental gymnastics? What if another creature has a 3d6 bolt ranged spell attack? If I go with some people, its a ranged spell attack, not a spell, so not immune. Others definitely immune since a 3d6 ranged spell attack is below the immunity threshold no matter how you figure, but so is 7d6 bolt. But that is an all or nothing approach. If a CR23 empyrean can't hit a rakshasa then its basically immune to any spell attack from another monster ( I haven't combed the MM to see just how many monsters the rakshasa is immune to that it probably shouldn't be assuming PC spell rules, but I think its safe to assume if its immune to a CR 23 monsters spell attack, its immune most other monsters). That doesn't feel right. By using a rough dice = spell level equivalent for the purposes of immunity it opens the rakshasa to spell attacks from tough monsters which feels right, but keeps them immune to weaker monsters spell attacks which also feels right. Once again, I am not claiming BOLT with 7d6 is equal to a 7th level spell...only that for the purposes of a rakshasa's immunity, dice=spell level is good first approximation for it to overcome a rakshasa's immunity. [/QUOTE]
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