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<blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4506454" data-attributes="member: 70778">Well then to truly get a 1E feel you need to convert most things to matrices. Attack matrices, ability score matrices, etc. Because that is what those 12 times represents. A number matrix.Does 4th have any matrices?No no no no no... closer in relation to other 4th edition classes HP, not with other editions of wizards. That is where I mean the 4th wizard is a more sturdy character. At least compared to the other characters for its edition. You don't see any 3 HP wizards running around in 4th do you? Or 9 HP 4th level wizards in 4th....The wizard in 4th compared to the other classes in 4th gained some backbone to help him stand up compared to the older editions class comparison within each edition.Like the wizard used to be the weakest link in the chain by far, and in 4th not so much.Can you see me now? I played fighters when I didn't want to have to mess with spells, and rouge abilities, etc. Just wanted someone that could bash stuff. I mean fighter fighters, not an off-shoot like ranger or paladin. Some times you just want to play something that doesn't carry all that other baggage.Give me my armor and sword, and let me start a swinging. Or wrestling (not grappling but ECW style.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="justanobody, post: 4506454, member: 70778"] Well then to truly get a 1E feel you need to convert most things to matrices. Attack matrices, ability score matrices, etc. Because that is what those 12 times represents. A number matrix. Does 4th have any matrices? No no no no no... closer in relation to other 4th edition classes HP, not with other editions of wizards. That is where I mean the 4th wizard is a more sturdy character. At least compared to the other characters for its edition. You don't see any 3 HP wizards running around in 4th do you? Or 9 HP 4th level wizards in 4th.... The wizard in 4th compared to the other classes in 4th gained some backbone to help him stand up compared to the older editions class comparison within each edition. Like the wizard used to be the weakest link in the chain by far, and in 4th not so much. Can you see me now? I played fighters when I didn't want to have to mess with spells, and rouge abilities, etc. Just wanted someone that could bash stuff. I mean fighter fighters, not an off-shoot like ranger or paladin. Some times you just want to play something that doesn't carry all that other baggage. Give me my armor and sword, and let me start a swinging. Or wrestling (not grappling but ECW style.) [/QUOTE]

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