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<blockquote data-quote="CleverNickName" data-source="post: 5801893" data-attributes="member: 50987"><p><strong>On Being A Grognard</strong></p><p></p><p>Well, I am unapologetic about my grognardiness (grognardom? grognossity?) when it comes to my gaming habits. Until 5th Edition was announced, I had lost interest in the hobby as a whole, and had taken to playing Skyrim on XBOX to get my RPG fix. But now? Now I'm browsing the stores, I'm back at ENWorld, I'm reading up on the hobby, I am thinking up new and creative ways to tweak the game, and I am starting a new D&D campaign in a few weeks. It's like I have a reason to pay attention again.</p><p></p><p>I didn't care for the 4th Edition of Dungeons and Dragons. I preferred the "old style" of gaming (especially the BECM rules) and it is really awesome to hear about how this new edition might emulate those rules. Does that make me a grognard? Yes, I suppose it does...if a "grognard" can also be excited about The New Hotness.</p><p></p><p>I can't speak for anyone else, but <em>this</em> grognard is optimistic and happy. I sympathize with the 4E fans; I've been in that position before and it's not cool to watch your game of choice get shelved. (And sadly, a tiny part of me feels a little bit vindicated. What can I say? I'm human.)</p><p></p><p>I can't really take the blame for "killing 4e," but I don't own any of their books and I didn't buy the products, so that probably didn't help. Since they stopped selling PDFs of their books, I didn't even have a reason to visit their website. Is it my fault that I didn't like the product line? Hard to say. Maybe if I were a "true fan" of the game I would have supported it with my wallet...and I didn't.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, if they really wanted the contents of my wallet, they would provide products that grognards like me would want. I would pay cash money for a new printing of the Rules Cyclopedia...especially if they re-released it with a leather binding and updated artwork (scratch that...I want the classic D&D artwork from the boxed sets. Mmmm, nostalgia.) I would love new printings of The Keep on the Borderlands, The Isle of Dread, and Master of the Desert Nomads, even if I had to pay $25 each for them. I'd settle for PDFs or e-books, but...well, that poor, dead horse has been beaten enough.</p><p></p><p>Grognards are a simple people. We like what we have always liked, and all we want is more of the same. That should be a pretty easy business model, all things considered.</p><p></p><p>"What do we want?!"</p><p>"MORE OF THE SAME!"</p><p>"When do we want it?!"</p><p>"AT THE SAME RATE AS BEFORE!"</p><p></p><p>But business doesn't work that way. And that isn't anybody's fault. You can blame the Old Guard for the advent of 5E, but you are only fooling yourself. This game, like anything else, must adapt in order to continue to thrive. We should let it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CleverNickName, post: 5801893, member: 50987"] [b]On Being A Grognard[/b] Well, I am unapologetic about my grognardiness (grognardom? grognossity?) when it comes to my gaming habits. Until 5th Edition was announced, I had lost interest in the hobby as a whole, and had taken to playing Skyrim on XBOX to get my RPG fix. But now? Now I'm browsing the stores, I'm back at ENWorld, I'm reading up on the hobby, I am thinking up new and creative ways to tweak the game, and I am starting a new D&D campaign in a few weeks. It's like I have a reason to pay attention again. I didn't care for the 4th Edition of Dungeons and Dragons. I preferred the "old style" of gaming (especially the BECM rules) and it is really awesome to hear about how this new edition might emulate those rules. Does that make me a grognard? Yes, I suppose it does...if a "grognard" can also be excited about The New Hotness. I can't speak for anyone else, but [I]this[/I] grognard is optimistic and happy. I sympathize with the 4E fans; I've been in that position before and it's not cool to watch your game of choice get shelved. (And sadly, a tiny part of me feels a little bit vindicated. What can I say? I'm human.) I can't really take the blame for "killing 4e," but I don't own any of their books and I didn't buy the products, so that probably didn't help. Since they stopped selling PDFs of their books, I didn't even have a reason to visit their website. Is it my fault that I didn't like the product line? Hard to say. Maybe if I were a "true fan" of the game I would have supported it with my wallet...and I didn't. On the other hand, if they really wanted the contents of my wallet, they would provide products that grognards like me would want. I would pay cash money for a new printing of the Rules Cyclopedia...especially if they re-released it with a leather binding and updated artwork (scratch that...I want the classic D&D artwork from the boxed sets. Mmmm, nostalgia.) I would love new printings of The Keep on the Borderlands, The Isle of Dread, and Master of the Desert Nomads, even if I had to pay $25 each for them. I'd settle for PDFs or e-books, but...well, that poor, dead horse has been beaten enough. Grognards are a simple people. We like what we have always liked, and all we want is more of the same. That should be a pretty easy business model, all things considered. "What do we want?!" "MORE OF THE SAME!" "When do we want it?!" "AT THE SAME RATE AS BEFORE!" But business doesn't work that way. And that isn't anybody's fault. You can blame the Old Guard for the advent of 5E, but you are only fooling yourself. This game, like anything else, must adapt in order to continue to thrive. We should let it. [/QUOTE]
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