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<blockquote data-quote="Kalontas" data-source="post: 5803358" data-attributes="member: 6686378"><p>The way I see it being developed so far, I can't see a single new player for 5E. With more and more quotes coming, it looks like it wholesale borrows from 3.5, while taking some minor words from 4E just to keep the facade of being friendly to all editions - while really kicking 4E swiftly in the groin, if you look deeper.</p><p></p><p>Let's look at the Vancian magic. IMO - and in opinion of many 4E players - lack of it in 4E was a vast improvement. Now they're stating it's back and in the core, so you can't avoid it. Power sources! One of the major changes in 4E, and ones iconic with the edition. Oh, they're dumping them.</p><p></p><p>If it keeps that way, i.e. being 3.5E with some names from 4E, it will fail spectactularly. The reactionists will remain with their 3.5 of Pathfinder (because why change their game <em>at all</em>?), while the 4E fans will remain with their - vastly different - game. Now WHO exactly will buy 5E books in that case? What new audiences can they interest in the game if all the old audiences will be gone elsewhere?</p><p></p><p>This is why developers must stop listening to those "grognards". Those people who were afraid of change and for whom the devs are now trying to regress the game are a malignant tumor upon D&D, one that will eventually drive it down, like every reactionist movement. Everything - tabletop games including - must PROGRESS to survive. That tumor needs to removed, or if it removed itself already, the healthy body must distance itself away from it, not try to re-attach it because "it was kinda cool on morphine with the tumor on".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kalontas, post: 5803358, member: 6686378"] The way I see it being developed so far, I can't see a single new player for 5E. With more and more quotes coming, it looks like it wholesale borrows from 3.5, while taking some minor words from 4E just to keep the facade of being friendly to all editions - while really kicking 4E swiftly in the groin, if you look deeper. Let's look at the Vancian magic. IMO - and in opinion of many 4E players - lack of it in 4E was a vast improvement. Now they're stating it's back and in the core, so you can't avoid it. Power sources! One of the major changes in 4E, and ones iconic with the edition. Oh, they're dumping them. If it keeps that way, i.e. being 3.5E with some names from 4E, it will fail spectactularly. The reactionists will remain with their 3.5 of Pathfinder (because why change their game [i]at all[/i]?), while the 4E fans will remain with their - vastly different - game. Now WHO exactly will buy 5E books in that case? What new audiences can they interest in the game if all the old audiences will be gone elsewhere? This is why developers must stop listening to those "grognards". Those people who were afraid of change and for whom the devs are now trying to regress the game are a malignant tumor upon D&D, one that will eventually drive it down, like every reactionist movement. Everything - tabletop games including - must PROGRESS to survive. That tumor needs to removed, or if it removed itself already, the healthy body must distance itself away from it, not try to re-attach it because "it was kinda cool on morphine with the tumor on". [/QUOTE]
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