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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kalontas" data-source="post: 5804863" data-attributes="member: 6686378">So what, now you want revenge? And you want to "avenge" your beloved edition on me, who had nothing to do with removing your favourite parts?I really am open to using elements from all different editions. It's just that when I mention using any element of 4E, I'm usually quickly scared into a corner by those "grognards" (according to the definition I posted earlier) and forced to defend my preferences about it, making me look like some fanatical 4E-ist. I'm just pushed into that position by people who can't stand anything to do with 4E.I really do want 5E to be the game for all of us. I really do, trust me. It's just people who want some crazy revenge for their edition being "slighted" who are holding it up - because they don't want to allow in preferences from that "evil" edition, one I happen to like and advocate. It can't be the edition for everyone if you shut off 4E. If you shut off 4E, it's not edition for everyone, just for the "3.X grognards" - who should just stick with 3.X if they're so fanatical for it.And that shows in seminars, where at every conflict of "3.X does it this way, but 4 does it that way", developers seem to always go for the 3.X option, because the "grognards" are overshouting me (and alike people) with their hatred for 4E.Yes, I know the edition of your preference was slighted, and I regret it. I, however, happen to like the newer edition, and I'm not the only one. I just want the voice of my preference be heard and my preferences be included AMONG those of you or other, even older fans. Do not hold it up. If you can't live with anything from 4E, remain with 3.X/PF. If you can make a compromise, bear with me.</blockquote>

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