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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Conaill" data-source="post: 1258950" data-attributes="member: 1264">AARGH!!! Nooooooo......... I'm all in favor of using point-buy, but point-buy with a randomized point value combines the WORST aspects of point-buy and rolling.Point-buy: pro: creates fair and balanced characterscon: allows and encourages min-maxing, resulting in very non-organic looking statsRolling:pro: creates interesting, organic statscon: created characters that aren't balanced with each otherRandomized point-buy creates (1) unbalanced characters, that (2) can be fully min-maxed. Much as I dislike rolling characters, I wouldn't want to touch a randomized point buy with a 10' pole, and I would probablu refuse to play with any DM who required it.There are othere alternatives however. For example, it is possible to try combine the BEST aspects or rolling and point-buy. Ideally, you want a stat generation method that (1) creates characters which are balanced with each other, and (2) yields interesting organic stats without being fully min-maxable. Here are some possibilities:1) Take a deck of cards and throw out all but the 1-6 cards. Deal 6 hands of 4 cards and remove the lowest card from each hand. Gives almost exactly the same stat distribution as 4d6-drop-lowest, but the set of stats as a whole will be much better balanced.2) The DM draws up a series of 6 or 20 sets of stats which he considers balanced. Players roll a d6 or d20 to choose one of them. (Randomized "default array")3) Roll 3 stats using your favorite method. the remaining three are equal to 25 minus the previous three (max 18). Point-buy score isn't fully balanced, but at least the total stat values are. For every high stat you alos get a low one, and for every odd one you get an even one.4) Roll stats using you favorite method and calculate their point value. If the score is above a desired target value, decrease stats at will until it fits (but you are only allowed to *decrease* stat). Vice versa if the point score is below target (only increase stats).</blockquote>

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