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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9667030" data-attributes="member: 6795602">Ah.  I see how that could happen.I don't really fully agree here on the mobility part, because the point previously was that you can't get heavy crossbow push mastery and mobility on the Paladin 2 / Rogue.  It's either one or the other.  When you claimed you could by dipping Paladin, that's when I brought up the Mobility issues.Regardless though, I think Single class Rogue is moving up on my list.  I still hate that he has to give up damage for his control options and that the best way to play him is to miss out on push mastery (though assassin can ignore the 0 speed property of steady aim at level 9, so there's something there).  But he's one of the best out of combat classes due to expertise + reliable talent both coming online early now.The more I think about it the less clear it is that it's clearly better.  Yes the damage number is better, but your giving up some nice stuff for that.  At some point you are losing out on some combination of AC, Initiative, Save DC's for Cunning Strikes Poison/Trip, Range and Cover ignoring from Sharpshooter, and/or a feat.  I'm confident that your DPR number will be higher.  I'm not confident that you've actually made the better archer, especially if you decide to multiclass to fix the AC issue.I thought that initially, but I'm no longer sold that it's the best way.</blockquote>