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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 5533203" data-attributes="member: 59248">Fair enough.  OTOH, it wouldn't be hard to design a Shaman subclass that was actually a ranged defender (and probably, like the Essentials druid is a secondary controller, a secondary leader) -- not a primary leader at all.Indeed. I agree -- I go so far as to say that unless the defender is receiving hits and risk, they're not a defender, but a controller.  So a ranged defender would really need a pet to properly defend, rather than control (although there is some blur.  Some of the defendery wizard summons, again, are functionally ranged defender tricks.  Stuff like Summon Chainbearer -- with threatening reach [covering 32 squares!] and a slide on hit (including OAs)--and defendery AC).The Sentinel also has a pet.I'd leave familiars out -- all arcane classes can have them (which means all roles), and they're pretty one-shot most of the time.  And as far as minor pets go, there's also the D393 paladin with Call Celestial Steed.Sure.  It still functionally needs to be fueled by the defender's HP/surges (probably.  You might be able to manage a defender who had a pet that could be killed, rather than draining the defender's hp, but then they'd need to not have that many powers of their own or they'd be unbalanced), but there's no reason the defender needs to be front and center as long as -something- represents their chin sticking out ofr a beating.</blockquote>