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Message: <blockquote data-quote="andy3k" data-source="post: 5533833" data-attributes="member: 6674918">I agree that wizard summons can act like defenders, but a defender needs to be around ALL the time. A 1st level wizard can't summon every combat. A wizard also doesn't have the HP/surges to withstand the beating a defender would take. A wizard subclass would not be possible since the changes necessary for summoning wizard to be a defender would be too grand to keep it a subclass.Same thing goes for Shaman. Leaders don't have the HP and surges to be adequate defenders. Yes, you could make a passable leader with heavy defender strategy (as suggested above), which would be a good backup to a primary defender, but I want a full-fledged primary defender that can do the whole job himself.You mentioned the Sentinel as a defender with a pet, but neither of my table-top groups are including Essentials into their games. I will read over the Sentinel write-up, and possibly steal some of its ideas, but I want a true blue 4e (non-essentials) ranged defender. Maybe I should convert the Sentinel to non-essentials or maybe just borrow a few ideas. I'll take a look.</blockquote>