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<blockquote data-quote="Terraism" data-source="post: 6162583" data-attributes="member: 278"><p>Under a strict - and in this case, I think correct - reading of the rules, I don't believe so. A hybrid ranger can only use Hunter's Quarry "when you hit your quarry with a ranger power or a ranger paragon path power". You're not hitting your quarry with a ranger power - you'd be hitting them with a seeker power. In fact, I'm fairly certain that you couldn't even apply your Hunter's Quarry damage even if you just made a standard ranged basic attack with Clever Shot, as a ranged basic attack is <em>not</em> a ranger power. That's the case with most hybrids - rogue hybrids can't sneak attack with a melee basic attack, fighter hybrids don't mark with a melee basic, and so on. That's one of the weaknesses that a hybrid character accepts in exchange for the versatility.</p><p></p><p>As an aside, I assume that the way you're getting Clever Shot on a hybrid ranger is by taking the feat "Archery Mastery" that lets you drop a ranger at-will for one of the Expert Archer powers. Because you can't normally choose Clever Shot in an at-will slot - it doesn't have a level.</p><p></p><p>All that said, yes, I do think that you <em>can</em> Clever Shot a Guardian Harrier attack, which does do some solid damage mixed with control. Effectively, you've got an at-will that does 1W+Ability+mods, knocks the target prone, and can potentially do another Ability score mod worth of damage. Solid, but probably a little low for a striker's bread-and-butter. But great for a mixed controller/striker build.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Terraism, post: 6162583, member: 278"] Under a strict - and in this case, I think correct - reading of the rules, I don't believe so. A hybrid ranger can only use Hunter's Quarry "when you hit your quarry with a ranger power or a ranger paragon path power". You're not hitting your quarry with a ranger power - you'd be hitting them with a seeker power. In fact, I'm fairly certain that you couldn't even apply your Hunter's Quarry damage even if you just made a standard ranged basic attack with Clever Shot, as a ranged basic attack is [i]not[/i] a ranger power. That's the case with most hybrids - rogue hybrids can't sneak attack with a melee basic attack, fighter hybrids don't mark with a melee basic, and so on. That's one of the weaknesses that a hybrid character accepts in exchange for the versatility. As an aside, I assume that the way you're getting Clever Shot on a hybrid ranger is by taking the feat "Archery Mastery" that lets you drop a ranger at-will for one of the Expert Archer powers. Because you can't normally choose Clever Shot in an at-will slot - it doesn't have a level. All that said, yes, I do think that you [i]can[/i] Clever Shot a Guardian Harrier attack, which does do some solid damage mixed with control. Effectively, you've got an at-will that does 1W+Ability+mods, knocks the target prone, and can potentially do another Ability score mod worth of damage. Solid, but probably a little low for a striker's bread-and-butter. But great for a mixed controller/striker build. [/QUOTE]
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