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<blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 5171998" data-attributes="member: 59248"><p>Er, yeah. There's a big difference between Polearm gamble (which is a terrible example, as it never mentions the words "provoke an OA" -- just that you can -make- one) and Reaving Axe Slayer.</p><p></p><p>Specific beats general -- but only where it actually says anything.</p><p></p><p>The default for the game is: When something provokes an OA and is in your threat range, you can make an OA if you haven't already made one on this creature's turn.</p><p></p><p>Whip Crack is a great example of how this works: "<strong>Effect</strong>: Until the start of your next turn, when an enemy within your reach takes an action that provokes opportunity attacks from adjacent enemies, it provokes an opportunity attack from you." So it doesn't change what provokes at all -- but it overrides the rules that provoking OAs only happens from adjacent enemies.</p><p></p><p>Now, Reaving Axe Slayer says: Whenever you score a critical hit against an enemy, you also knock that enemy prone, and the first time it stands up before the end of your next turn, it provokes an opportunity attack.</p><p></p><p>Does it say who it provkes an OA from? No. So you could read it as "provokes an opportunity attack from all enemies", or "provokes an opportunity attack from you" -- either of which would let you make an OA when it stood up regardless of where you were. But while that's -reasonable-, it's also clearly wrong; it's more or less a deliberate misreading of the rules. Yes, in this version of the game (unlike previous ones) they never actually spell out that the default range for "provokes an opporunity attack" is adjacent...until you look at, say, the wording for Threatening Reach: A creature that has threatening reach can make an opportunity attack against any enemy within its reach that provokes an opportunity attack.. Which implies that the game still has a default threat range -- and that that default is still "adjacent".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mneme, post: 5171998, member: 59248"] Er, yeah. There's a big difference between Polearm gamble (which is a terrible example, as it never mentions the words "provoke an OA" -- just that you can -make- one) and Reaving Axe Slayer. Specific beats general -- but only where it actually says anything. The default for the game is: When something provokes an OA and is in your threat range, you can make an OA if you haven't already made one on this creature's turn. Whip Crack is a great example of how this works: "[B]Effect[/B]: Until the start of your next turn, when an enemy within your reach takes an action that provokes opportunity attacks from adjacent enemies, it provokes an opportunity attack from you." So it doesn't change what provokes at all -- but it overrides the rules that provoking OAs only happens from adjacent enemies. Now, Reaving Axe Slayer says: Whenever you score a critical hit against an enemy, you also knock that enemy prone, and the first time it stands up before the end of your next turn, it provokes an opportunity attack. Does it say who it provkes an OA from? No. So you could read it as "provokes an opportunity attack from all enemies", or "provokes an opportunity attack from you" -- either of which would let you make an OA when it stood up regardless of where you were. But while that's -reasonable-, it's also clearly wrong; it's more or less a deliberate misreading of the rules. Yes, in this version of the game (unlike previous ones) they never actually spell out that the default range for "provokes an opporunity attack" is adjacent...until you look at, say, the wording for Threatening Reach: A creature that has threatening reach can make an opportunity attack against any enemy within its reach that provokes an opportunity attack.. Which implies that the game still has a default threat range -- and that that default is still "adjacent". [/QUOTE]
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