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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7562649" data-attributes="member: 6801845">First of all, I don't agree.&nbsp; Especially when dealing with ancient dragons.&nbsp; Clouds of smoke or mist are going to limit visibility.&nbsp; In the mountains they're going to spy on the group from far above and wait until the group is in a narrow pass before appearing suddenly from over a cliff.&nbsp; But even if it's an open plane with no cover, it doesn't matter.&nbsp; Yes the melee types will have plenty of time to contemplate their demise, but it doesn't change the fact that they may will be completely useless in the upcoming fight.&nbsp; They're going to be bored and ineffective, readying an attack every round to throw their one javelin per round if the dragon comes within 40 ft.&nbsp; I guess it does give them time to pull out the pom poms and figure out their cheer routine. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm&nbsp; &nbsp; :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" />Call it a pet peeve but I hate having to nerf the bad guy so the PCs have a chance.&nbsp; Especially when there are simple options to make minor tweaks to the rules so everyone can participate.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7562649, member: 6801845"] First of all, I don't agree. Especially when dealing with ancient dragons. Clouds of smoke or mist are going to limit visibility. In the mountains they're going to spy on the group from far above and wait until the group is in a narrow pass before appearing suddenly from over a cliff. But even if it's an open plane with no cover, it doesn't matter. Yes the melee types will have plenty of time to contemplate their demise, but it doesn't change the fact that they may will be completely useless in the upcoming fight. They're going to be bored and ineffective, readying an attack every round to throw their one javelin per round if the dragon comes within 40 ft. I guess it does give them time to pull out the pom poms and figure out their cheer routine. :hmm: Call it a pet peeve but I hate having to nerf the bad guy so the PCs have a chance. Especially when there are simple options to make minor tweaks to the rules so everyone can participate. [/QUOTE]

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