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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7562931" data-attributes="member: 6801845">Which would be fine.&nbsp; If there were options.&nbsp; Sometimes there is not.Everyone keeps yelling &quot;teamwork for the win!&quot; but what if the wizard (if there even is one) doesn't have jump or spiderclimb or fly?&nbsp; Because of those 3, I've only ever seen anyone take fly, and fly is the only one that would work against flying creatures.&nbsp; In addition, fly is concentration so it's only 1 person.&nbsp; Too bad if you have more than one melee type in the group.Maybe I just want people to be honest.&nbsp; If you have strength based melee types they're going to suck in certain encounters unless the DM changes the scenario.&nbsp; Never throw any intelligent opponent that strength based characters can approach.I think that's a problem, and limits logical scenarios based on the campaign.&nbsp; Or just tell the OP that, no there are no ranged options for all classes (which really should be no ranged options unless you have a decent dex) and just tell Bob to go read a book while the rest of the party does the combat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7562931, member: 6801845"] Which would be fine. If there were options. Sometimes there is not. Everyone keeps yelling "teamwork for the win!" but what if the wizard (if there even is one) doesn't have jump or spiderclimb or fly? Because of those 3, I've only ever seen anyone take fly, and fly is the only one that would work against flying creatures. In addition, fly is concentration so it's only 1 person. Too bad if you have more than one melee type in the group. Maybe I just want people to be honest. If you have strength based melee types they're going to suck in certain encounters unless the DM changes the scenario. Never throw any intelligent opponent that strength based characters can approach. I think that's a problem, and limits logical scenarios based on the campaign. Or just tell the OP that, no there are no ranged options for all classes (which really should be no ranged options unless you have a decent dex) and just tell Bob to go read a book while the rest of the party does the combat. [/QUOTE]

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