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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7563187" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Two. jgsugden already detailed how that is done with no house rules. Maybe you have him blocked?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My comparison to short sword is just to say the damage is not that far off. Plenty of people go into battle with a battleaxe or longsword, and they're only one point more average damage - and you're comparing to an archer, which is also just one point off. And again, jgsugden already explained how you can in fact use your extra attack with the javelin for most rounds of combat. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes disadvantage is the main difference. If you can mitigate that, great. If not, that's the drawback of ranged for you. Much like the ranged character is going to get hit more often in melee due to a lack of a shield, or doing less damage than a two handed weapon user. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This thread is not just about the specific lava scenario because if it were you wouldn't be making all these generalizations about how strength based attackers are useless at range in general. Again, I wish you'd be more straight in this thread because we'd all be having a better conversation. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed, so why all the generalizations about them sucking?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And there it is again - the claim the PC is sidelined...because they have disadvantage sometimes in the rare instance they cannot get closer or mitigate that disadvantage. WHY the exagerations Saelorn? You already know they're not sidelined and that's not what this topic comes down to, so why do you keep claiming they are, given it sure doesn't appear to be swaying opinions by mistating the situation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7563187, member: 2525"] Two. jgsugden already detailed how that is done with no house rules. Maybe you have him blocked? My comparison to short sword is just to say the damage is not that far off. Plenty of people go into battle with a battleaxe or longsword, and they're only one point more average damage - and you're comparing to an archer, which is also just one point off. And again, jgsugden already explained how you can in fact use your extra attack with the javelin for most rounds of combat. Yes disadvantage is the main difference. If you can mitigate that, great. If not, that's the drawback of ranged for you. Much like the ranged character is going to get hit more often in melee due to a lack of a shield, or doing less damage than a two handed weapon user. This thread is not just about the specific lava scenario because if it were you wouldn't be making all these generalizations about how strength based attackers are useless at range in general. Again, I wish you'd be more straight in this thread because we'd all be having a better conversation. Agreed, so why all the generalizations about them sucking? And there it is again - the claim the PC is sidelined...because they have disadvantage sometimes in the rare instance they cannot get closer or mitigate that disadvantage. WHY the exagerations Saelorn? You already know they're not sidelined and that's not what this topic comes down to, so why do you keep claiming they are, given it sure doesn't appear to be swaying opinions by mistating the situation. [/QUOTE]
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