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<blockquote data-quote="aboyd" data-source="post: 4481984" data-attributes="member: 44797"><p>I've finally concluded that my interpretation will be that it's about the container, not the designation of the item.</p><p></p><p>After all, we started this with a debate about how haversacks, scabbards, and bandoliers either work or don't with the Quick Draw feat. We've all at least agreed that the thing holding the thing has to enable quick access.</p><p></p><p>So I've decided that that's it. If a spellcaster wants to Quick Draw scrolls, I'm letting him provided he can get an outfit that enables that. Perhaps there might only be 5 slots for Quick Draw, and the rest are stuffed in a backpack, but it still works for me. And it won't diminish read time. The Quick Draw merely removes the searching-in-a-pack time.</p><p></p><p>If a player wants to Quick Draw a potion, sure, if it's in a bandolier or special belt. They'll still need the move action to drink it down, though.</p><p></p><p>Shurikens? I assume they're in a wrist pouch with ready access, or carried in such a way that 10 can be held in the palm, allowing for many rounds of throwing before needing a reload.</p><p></p><p>Flasks in a bandolier? Yep. Sheathed sword? Yep. Sword in backpack? Nope.</p><p></p><p>It all comes down to how easy it is to get at it, not what it is classified as. This solution makes me happy, and getting back to the original post, it also enables some nice ranged sneak attacks with flasks if the setup is careful & correct. I'm happy to reward players for careful planning.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for helping me work through my thoughts on the matter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aboyd, post: 4481984, member: 44797"] I've finally concluded that my interpretation will be that it's about the container, not the designation of the item. After all, we started this with a debate about how haversacks, scabbards, and bandoliers either work or don't with the Quick Draw feat. We've all at least agreed that the thing holding the thing has to enable quick access. So I've decided that that's it. If a spellcaster wants to Quick Draw scrolls, I'm letting him provided he can get an outfit that enables that. Perhaps there might only be 5 slots for Quick Draw, and the rest are stuffed in a backpack, but it still works for me. And it won't diminish read time. The Quick Draw merely removes the searching-in-a-pack time. If a player wants to Quick Draw a potion, sure, if it's in a bandolier or special belt. They'll still need the move action to drink it down, though. Shurikens? I assume they're in a wrist pouch with ready access, or carried in such a way that 10 can be held in the palm, allowing for many rounds of throwing before needing a reload. Flasks in a bandolier? Yep. Sheathed sword? Yep. Sword in backpack? Nope. It all comes down to how easy it is to get at it, not what it is classified as. This solution makes me happy, and getting back to the original post, it also enables some nice ranged sneak attacks with flasks if the setup is careful & correct. I'm happy to reward players for careful planning. Thanks for helping me work through my thoughts on the matter. [/QUOTE]
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