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<blockquote data-quote="Marius" data-source="post: 525042" data-attributes="member: 9293"><p><strong>Barbarians and Rangers, etc etc</strong></p><p></p><p>I was referring to the ranger as a speed demon, insofar as attacks are concerned. They get more attacks quicker than any of the other races, between rapid shots, and multiple weapons with the free feats. The main difference between they and other fighter type characters is that they emphasize speed and agility over the pure power of say, a barbarian.</p><p></p><p>My entire point with the tangent about rangers and barbarians, or for that matter, barbarians and anyone else for that matter, is not that the classes don't mesh well. I think they do. If I started out at a 0/0 level barbarian/ranger, I would have no problems with that. If the two classes have been combined in any fashion, prior to the character being created, that makes sense to me as well.</p><p></p><p>My point is that from a character development standpoint, as a ranger, or a rogue, or fighter, or anything else, those are professions. Someone can be born anywhere, in any society, and start stealing and progress to a capable thief, or go to war, and become a fighter.</p><p></p><p>All books regarding barbarians, be it masters of the wild, or the PHB, describe Barbarians as coming from a wild tribe, and coming to society to for the thrill of riches, or escaping from slavery. They are described as a lifestyle, not a profession. I just have difficulty seeing, from a roleplaying point of view, how someone can just pick up a level of barbarian after being a ranger, or a thief, or whatever for several levels. I can understand how it's beneficial to the character's abilities, rages, and increased speed and HD, and I can see why you'd want to do it, I just don't understand how it can be justified from realistic, roleplaying point of view.</p><p></p><p>Incidentally, I think Im probably going to take quick draw, because this will increase my versatility. =)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marius, post: 525042, member: 9293"] [b]Barbarians and Rangers, etc etc[/b] I was referring to the ranger as a speed demon, insofar as attacks are concerned. They get more attacks quicker than any of the other races, between rapid shots, and multiple weapons with the free feats. The main difference between they and other fighter type characters is that they emphasize speed and agility over the pure power of say, a barbarian. My entire point with the tangent about rangers and barbarians, or for that matter, barbarians and anyone else for that matter, is not that the classes don't mesh well. I think they do. If I started out at a 0/0 level barbarian/ranger, I would have no problems with that. If the two classes have been combined in any fashion, prior to the character being created, that makes sense to me as well. My point is that from a character development standpoint, as a ranger, or a rogue, or fighter, or anything else, those are professions. Someone can be born anywhere, in any society, and start stealing and progress to a capable thief, or go to war, and become a fighter. All books regarding barbarians, be it masters of the wild, or the PHB, describe Barbarians as coming from a wild tribe, and coming to society to for the thrill of riches, or escaping from slavery. They are described as a lifestyle, not a profession. I just have difficulty seeing, from a roleplaying point of view, how someone can just pick up a level of barbarian after being a ranger, or a thief, or whatever for several levels. I can understand how it's beneficial to the character's abilities, rages, and increased speed and HD, and I can see why you'd want to do it, I just don't understand how it can be justified from realistic, roleplaying point of view. Incidentally, I think Im probably going to take quick draw, because this will increase my versatility. =) [/QUOTE]
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