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<blockquote data-quote="Karmashock" data-source="post: 6770044" data-attributes="member: 6804995"><p>I am confused about how these scale.</p><p></p><p>The rules in so far as I understand them:</p><p>1. No larger than medium.</p><p>2. No more than 1/4th CR.</p><p>3. P Bonus added to AC</p><p>4. P bonus added to Attack</p><p>5. P bonus added to damage</p><p>6. P bonus added to Skills it is proficient in</p><p>7. P bonus added to saves it is proficient in</p><p>8. HP Equal to ranger level times 4</p><p></p><p>P bonus is 2 at level 3 and 6 at level 17-20. So the creature's AC, Attack, Damage, skills, etc scale by 2~6 over the life of the character... and its HP goes from roughly 12 to 80 between Level 3 and Level 20.</p><p></p><p>Question 1. Does the proficiency bonus that applies to companions apply to special abilities... for example the DC of wolves attempting trip attempts? By high level, it would seem the ability wouldn't work anymore. Does it stay at DC11 forever or can I add my proficiency bonus to it? A DC of 17 at level 17 doesn't seem that OP. If this truly doesn't scale, then I might as well just switch to an animal with multiattack late game because at least that always scales.</p><p></p><p>Question 2. The rules state that I can add my proficiency bonus to saves the creature is proficient in... From what I can tell, no creature is proficient in any save what so ever... rendering this an odd thing to offer me. How would this work?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Assuming any of this stuff can get my P bonus, can you help me with citations or explanations or something because the DM will probably want something firm to rest the stance on.</p><p></p><p>Thank you for your time.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Literal quote from the book...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Karmashock, post: 6770044, member: 6804995"] I am confused about how these scale. The rules in so far as I understand them: 1. No larger than medium. 2. No more than 1/4th CR. 3. P Bonus added to AC 4. P bonus added to Attack 5. P bonus added to damage 6. P bonus added to Skills it is proficient in 7. P bonus added to saves it is proficient in 8. HP Equal to ranger level times 4 P bonus is 2 at level 3 and 6 at level 17-20. So the creature's AC, Attack, Damage, skills, etc scale by 2~6 over the life of the character... and its HP goes from roughly 12 to 80 between Level 3 and Level 20. Question 1. Does the proficiency bonus that applies to companions apply to special abilities... for example the DC of wolves attempting trip attempts? By high level, it would seem the ability wouldn't work anymore. Does it stay at DC11 forever or can I add my proficiency bonus to it? A DC of 17 at level 17 doesn't seem that OP. If this truly doesn't scale, then I might as well just switch to an animal with multiattack late game because at least that always scales. Question 2. The rules state that I can add my proficiency bonus to saves the creature is proficient in... From what I can tell, no creature is proficient in any save what so ever... rendering this an odd thing to offer me. How would this work? Assuming any of this stuff can get my P bonus, can you help me with citations or explanations or something because the DM will probably want something firm to rest the stance on. Thank you for your time. Literal quote from the book... [/QUOTE]
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