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<blockquote data-quote="KidSnide" data-source="post: 5938247" data-attributes="member: 54710">I'm with everyone else who can't stand forcing rangers into a binary &quot;two-weapon vs. archery&quot; decision.&nbsp; Those are both perfectly reasonable ranger character concepts, but it's a little batty to divide up the whole class between those two options.&nbsp; At its core, a ranger is a fighter that trades armor and a little fighting capability for skills and wilderness expertise.&nbsp; Any fighting style available to the fighter should be similarly available to the ranger.&nbsp; Notably, this includes a &quot;good with many weapons&quot; style that should be a canonical option.&nbsp; I'm optimistic that themes will provide this flexibility, and hope that a ranger with a more druidic (or wizardly) theme will be an effective way to create a really &quot;old school&quot; style character.And I agree that &quot;ranger = protector&quot; doesn't make any sense.&nbsp; If you can say that rangers are protectors, then you can say that about practically any class.&nbsp; (Are rangers any more &quot;protector-y&quot; than clerics, druids, fighters, paladins, monks or avengers?)Edit: I wish they were a little more flexible about the ranger &quot;favored terrain.&quot;&nbsp; In my experience, an urban ranger is often the best class for representing a constable / detective type of character.&nbsp; A rogue can work for some of those characters, but many want a more &quot;straight up&quot; fighting style than you get from a rogue.-KS</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KidSnide, post: 5938247, member: 54710"] I'm with everyone else who can't stand forcing rangers into a binary "two-weapon vs. archery" decision. Those are both perfectly reasonable ranger character concepts, but it's a little batty to divide up the whole class between those two options. At its core, a ranger is a fighter that trades armor and a little fighting capability for skills and wilderness expertise. Any fighting style available to the fighter should be similarly available to the ranger. Notably, this includes a "good with many weapons" style that should be a canonical option. I'm optimistic that themes will provide this flexibility, and hope that a ranger with a more druidic (or wizardly) theme will be an effective way to create a really "old school" style character. And I agree that "ranger = protector" doesn't make any sense. If you can say that rangers are protectors, then you can say that about practically any class. (Are rangers any more "protector-y" than clerics, druids, fighters, paladins, monks or avengers?) Edit: I wish they were a little more flexible about the ranger "favored terrain." In my experience, an urban ranger is often the best class for representing a constable / detective type of character. A rogue can work for some of those characters, but many want a more "straight up" fighting style than you get from a rogue. -KS [/QUOTE]

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