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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pauln6" data-source="post: 6772190" data-attributes="member: 6777422">Our hunter ranger is immense fun out of combat and that trade-off is fine with me.  I also don't see a pressing need to make the overall damage comparable to fighters and paladins but I do like the notion of d8 for favoured enemies.I'm not great at maths crunching.  I can see the above amended Hunter's Quarry works only once per round while the spell applies to every attack.  As such, the TWF beastmaster ranger suffers more than most and deserves a bit of help - but if the beast has multi-attack, it will also score a lot more damage using the old method. If Hunter's Mark inflicted 2d6 from 11th level on every attack and 2d8 for favoured enemies, does that tip the balance too far in the other direction, especially for TWF rangers with a multi-attack beast?I'm still unsure about the portability of any increased power curve for twin strike.  For rangers it's fine since you would be sacrificing damage from the loss of the second attack but it gives freebies to rogues who don't really need them and steps on the toes of the swashbuckler.</blockquote>