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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steverooo" data-source="post: 2874555" data-attributes="member: 9410">The -2 damage makes it a worse attack form than TWF, which is already bad enough, is my point.  Uber-combatant has nothing to do with it.  The style is sub-optimal, like TWF, only worse.You're right, no arguements there (and I was wrong, it is all attacks, not just one hit/round), BUT what I think you've failed to see is this: while you are dodging 10% of his blows, 25% of yours (assuming a 1D8 weapon) are causing NO DAMAGE, due to the -2 damage!  1D8-2 = 0 25% of the time!  10% dodge vs. 25% of yours hits doing no damage equals you lose!  Or, you could say STR Bonus cancels that out, but then he gets his while you lose yours (and spiders are extremely strong, for their size).And is still a worse combat style than TWF, IMO.  You gain 15% dodge in return for no damage 25% of the time (less damage ALL the time).  Sound like a deal?Light armor (+4, max.), +2 Arachnid, plus DEX, or about 18 at 7th level?  Not that hard to hit.  Maybe a bit harder, with magical armor and (perhaps) using a shield.  Yes, the avoiding damage is nice, but does it make up for the 1D8-2 damage?  At this level?Nope, once/round!I remain unconvinced...  I am going to have to stat up a Drow Spider King and an Elven Ranger and try them out, just to see how much the -2 damage hurts, and the dodging helps.None of which helps him overcome the -2 damage in combat, of course.It's not the BAB I'm protesting... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />  The -2 to hit hurts, some, but that along with the -2 damage strikes me as too much.I'll go look at the bigger cover at the ENWGS, again, but I could have sworn he had sword & dagger...  Regardless, the one inside (page 2?) has a sword & spiked small shield.  So I take it that the answer is "No, he doesn't fight with TWF, nor all four limbs", eh?</blockquote>

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