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[Ranger] Nimble Stike = Buffed Up Spring Attack?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 4310913" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>It took me a while to figure out the real value of Nimble Strike, but now that I figured it out I think it's useful for pretty much any Archer Ranger that trains Stealth, and often more useful than twin strike (which is usually thought of as the clearly superior at-will ranger power).</p><p></p><p>If there is any concealment or cover in the room (and usually there is), nimble strike is like spring attack.</p><p></p><p>All you have to do is move to cover or concealment, then:</p><p></p><p>Example A:</p><p></p><p>1a) Shift out from cover/concealment, </p><p>2a) Nimble strike for 1[W]+dex Damage, </p><p>3a) Shift back into cover/concealment, </p><p>4a) Roll stealth check (Odds are quite high you beat the opponents perception check),</p><p>5a) You are now "hidden", which has a number of effects including preventing line of sight, and preventing combat advantage against you (in addition to gaining the normal advantages of cover/concealment).</p><p>6a) Repeat from Step 1 </p><p></p><p>Now the question is, is there any way to gain combat advantage using this tactic? When you are hidden, you gain combat advantage. However, once you move out from cover/concealment, you are no longer hidden. </p><p></p><p>Could you, for instance:</p><p></p><p>Example B:</p><p></p><p>1) Stealth into a square of cover/concealment, </p><p>2) Nimble strike from within that concealment/cover and gain combat advantage for that strike,</p><p>3) Shift into different concealment/cover and make a new stealth check to start the process again for the next round?</p><p></p><p>Could you do this back and forth between two squares of cover/concealment?</p><p></p><p>If you do get combat advantage, then your nimble strikes will be Dex+2 vs. AC, Dam 1[W]+dex. Which seems like it will often be more powerful than twin strike that grants 2 atks, Dex vs. AC, Dam 1[W].</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 4310913, member: 2525"] It took me a while to figure out the real value of Nimble Strike, but now that I figured it out I think it's useful for pretty much any Archer Ranger that trains Stealth, and often more useful than twin strike (which is usually thought of as the clearly superior at-will ranger power). If there is any concealment or cover in the room (and usually there is), nimble strike is like spring attack. All you have to do is move to cover or concealment, then: Example A: 1a) Shift out from cover/concealment, 2a) Nimble strike for 1[W]+dex Damage, 3a) Shift back into cover/concealment, 4a) Roll stealth check (Odds are quite high you beat the opponents perception check), 5a) You are now "hidden", which has a number of effects including preventing line of sight, and preventing combat advantage against you (in addition to gaining the normal advantages of cover/concealment). 6a) Repeat from Step 1 Now the question is, is there any way to gain combat advantage using this tactic? When you are hidden, you gain combat advantage. However, once you move out from cover/concealment, you are no longer hidden. Could you, for instance: Example B: 1) Stealth into a square of cover/concealment, 2) Nimble strike from within that concealment/cover and gain combat advantage for that strike, 3) Shift into different concealment/cover and make a new stealth check to start the process again for the next round? Could you do this back and forth between two squares of cover/concealment? If you do get combat advantage, then your nimble strikes will be Dex+2 vs. AC, Dam 1[W]+dex. Which seems like it will often be more powerful than twin strike that grants 2 atks, Dex vs. AC, Dam 1[W]. [/QUOTE]
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