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<blockquote data-quote="The Souljourner" data-source="post: 521824" data-attributes="member: 1622">I'm actually not interested in having it balanced with a standard ranger.&nbsp; It's more or less there to make up for the fact that the standard ranger is fairly low on the balance scale.And I was actually thinking of removing uncanny dodge... I'd like the class to have it, but it's just too much, unfortunately.However, I think you removed too much.&nbsp; The always sneaky and fast sneak were stolen directly from Ninja of the Crescent moon, which also gets full sneak attack bonus, improved evasion, and some other cool abilities.&nbsp; So... I don't think it's all that bad to have them in this class.&nbsp; Detect Enemy should not be a 9th level ability... it's not nearly good enough.&nbsp; It's nice, I'll give you that, but it's a first through third level ability, at best.&nbsp; I'd rather have higher requirements and better abilities than lower requirements and lower abilities.&nbsp; You're right about hide and move silently requirements, though I doubt that'll be much of a sticking point for anyone who wants to take it... still, it'll keep out errant fighters and barbarians until late levels I guess.I remember your ranger/barbarian class... liked it a lot.&nbsp; I'll take a look at it again and maybe see what I can do about fixing this class a little.&nbsp; Also keep in mind, I always make my PrCs better than I really think they should be, because I know no matter what I do, my DM is going to want to make it less powerful - so if I start off too powerful, it'll hopefully end up just about right.-Nate, aka The Souljourner</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Souljourner, post: 521824, member: 1622"] I'm actually not interested in having it balanced with a standard ranger. It's more or less there to make up for the fact that the standard ranger is fairly low on the balance scale. And I was actually thinking of removing uncanny dodge... I'd like the class to have it, but it's just too much, unfortunately. However, I think you removed too much. The always sneaky and fast sneak were stolen directly from Ninja of the Crescent moon, which also gets full sneak attack bonus, improved evasion, and some other cool abilities. So... I don't think it's all that bad to have them in this class. Detect Enemy should not be a 9th level ability... it's not nearly good enough. It's nice, I'll give you that, but it's a first through third level ability, at best. I'd rather have higher requirements and better abilities than lower requirements and lower abilities. You're right about hide and move silently requirements, though I doubt that'll be much of a sticking point for anyone who wants to take it... still, it'll keep out errant fighters and barbarians until late levels I guess. I remember your ranger/barbarian class... liked it a lot. I'll take a look at it again and maybe see what I can do about fixing this class a little. Also keep in mind, I always make my PrCs better than I really think they should be, because I know no matter what I do, my DM is going to want to make it less powerful - so if I start off too powerful, it'll hopefully end up just about right. -Nate, aka The Souljourner [/QUOTE]

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