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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7015336" data-attributes="member: 97077">Leaving aside my belief that the DM should be telegraphing hidden threats to avoid the perception of challenges as gotchas, as @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6801554" target="_blank">discosoc</a> notes, if the party is being stealthy while traveling through the dungeon, your best bet is to use a passive check since it's a task they are performing on an ongoing basis. They will, of course, have to be moving at a slow pace which hopefully the DM has set up as a trade-off: They get more wandering monster checks per unit of dungeon covered or they have less wiggle-room to resolve their time-sensitive quest.But given your example, if they aren't doing so in general, but have chosen to stealth through this one area where someone is hiding, then again, I wouldn't ask for a check unless I knew something would actually happen on a failure. If there is no meaningful consequence of failure that would change the scene in some way (e.g. the monster behind the curtain attacks with surprise!), then I'm not asking for a roll. I will just decide on an outcome.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7015336, member: 97077"] Leaving aside my belief that the DM [I]should [/I]be telegraphing hidden threats to avoid the perception of challenges as gotchas, as @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6801554"]discosoc[/URL][/U][/B][/I] notes, if the party is being stealthy while traveling through the dungeon, your best bet is to use a passive check since it's a task they are performing on an ongoing basis. They will, of course, have to be moving at a slow pace which hopefully the DM has set up as a trade-off: They get more wandering monster checks per unit of dungeon covered or they have less wiggle-room to resolve their time-sensitive quest. But given your example, if they aren't doing so in general, but have chosen to stealth through this one area where someone is hiding, then again, I wouldn't ask for a check unless I knew something would actually happen on a failure. If there is no meaningful consequence of failure that would change the scene in some way (e.g. the monster behind the curtain attacks with surprise!), then I'm not asking for a roll. I will just decide on an outcome. [/QUOTE]

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