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<blockquote data-quote="discosoc" data-source="post: 7015723" data-attributes="member: 6801554">So basically the last 4 pages kind of boil down to highlighting the fact that there are two general DM preferences:1.&nbsp; DM's that want a roll for every possible action, even if it's just a &quot;meta-roll&quot; meant to someone prevent the player from &quot;reading between the lines.&quot;&nbsp; I think this style is a bit paranoid, and seems to assume the player is incapable of separating character knowledge from player assumptions.&nbsp; On the up side, I guess it would really make a character who excels at the skill feel like they are getting their money's worth.2.&nbsp; DM's that only want to roll for stuff when it's important.&nbsp; This is my preference, but I can see how a more tactical-minded group would find this to be boring maybe just not as exciting as rolling dice every few minutes.**edit**It also seems like some people are VERY obsessed with trying to somehow convince everyone that their idea is the right one.&nbsp; So much back and forth quoting that goes nowhere.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="discosoc, post: 7015723, member: 6801554"] So basically the last 4 pages kind of boil down to highlighting the fact that there are two general DM preferences: 1. DM's that want a roll for every possible action, even if it's just a "meta-roll" meant to someone prevent the player from "reading between the lines." I think this style is a bit paranoid, and seems to assume the player is incapable of separating character knowledge from player assumptions. On the up side, I guess it would really make a character who excels at the skill feel like they are getting their money's worth. 2. DM's that only want to roll for stuff when it's important. This is my preference, but I can see how a more tactical-minded group would find this to be boring maybe just not as exciting as rolling dice every few minutes. **edit** It also seems like some people are VERY obsessed with trying to somehow convince everyone that their idea is the right one. So much back and forth quoting that goes nowhere. [/QUOTE]

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