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<blockquote data-quote="Albereth" data-source="post: 30439" data-attributes="member: 1209">Yes, there is that big of a difference when you consider that there are quite a few creatures out there that are normal encounters that&nbsp; rogues can not sneak attack and do their, as you call it, &quot;salsa damage&quot;.&nbsp; I play a 10th level rogue and have weapon finesse with my rapier and a 20 dexterity.&nbsp; The fighter in our group, who just reached 9th level, has a attacks of 3-5 points more than me which is 15%-25% higher attack rate.&nbsp; He consistantly does more damage than I do and that is with my +5d6 sneak attack on each of two attacks, if I am lucky.&nbsp; He also has 98 hit points to my 62 so can stand there and take the punishment much better from those creatures that are doing 20-30 pts of damage per hit.&nbsp; So yes, there is a great difference.And also, in the original posters question, which I thought you might have read but must be wrong, he stated that the ranger/rogue was getting a lot more attacks then he should have been eligible for which would have accounted for the amount of damage that he was doing.&nbsp; We pointed out where in the rule book this was gleaned from and helped him to understand how the rules for that section work.&nbsp;&nbsp; The game is designed and balanced for the Fighter/Cleric/Rogue/Wizard party.&nbsp; In this group you only have one true fighter, your healer/fighter, your wizard and your rogue.&nbsp; The rogue is the utility person who puts themselves in danger to help the other two get flanking positions, and then getting out before they die.&nbsp; If you have a large enough party where the rogue has the option of sitting back and doing nothing until the traps and locked doors are found then good for you.&nbsp; Not all have this luxury unless each player wants to play 2 characters.This part of the message board is for questions related to how the rules work and how to interpret them.&nbsp; There is another section in the General Board area that is for House Rules.AHHHHHH, I see!!!!&nbsp; You were able to take the PHB, DMG, MM and all the other rules books and after reading them completely understood how all the rules related to each other and worked together with absolutely no questions.&nbsp; Now I see where you are coming from.......&nbsp; Forgive us for being so small and insignificant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Albereth, post: 30439, member: 1209"] Yes, there is that big of a difference when you consider that there are quite a few creatures out there that are normal encounters that rogues can not sneak attack and do their, as you call it, "salsa damage". I play a 10th level rogue and have weapon finesse with my rapier and a 20 dexterity. The fighter in our group, who just reached 9th level, has a attacks of 3-5 points more than me which is 15%-25% higher attack rate. He consistantly does more damage than I do and that is with my +5d6 sneak attack on each of two attacks, if I am lucky. He also has 98 hit points to my 62 so can stand there and take the punishment much better from those creatures that are doing 20-30 pts of damage per hit. So yes, there is a great difference. And also, in the original posters question, which I thought you might have read but must be wrong, he stated that the ranger/rogue was getting a lot more attacks then he should have been eligible for which would have accounted for the amount of damage that he was doing. We pointed out where in the rule book this was gleaned from and helped him to understand how the rules for that section work. The game is designed and balanced for the Fighter/Cleric/Rogue/Wizard party. In this group you only have one true fighter, your healer/fighter, your wizard and your rogue. The rogue is the utility person who puts themselves in danger to help the other two get flanking positions, and then getting out before they die. If you have a large enough party where the rogue has the option of sitting back and doing nothing until the traps and locked doors are found then good for you. Not all have this luxury unless each player wants to play 2 characters. This part of the message board is for questions related to how the rules work and how to interpret them. There is another section in the General Board area that is for House Rules. AHHHHHH, I see!!!! You were able to take the PHB, DMG, MM and all the other rules books and after reading them completely understood how all the rules related to each other and worked together with absolutely no questions. Now I see where you are coming from....... Forgive us for being so small and insignificant. [/QUOTE]

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