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<blockquote data-quote="rankarrog" data-source="post: 33007" data-attributes="member: 1133"><p>Just my 2 cents:</p><p>Let the rogue have his sneak attack, every class has it's way of dealing large amounts of damage, so why not the rogue?</p><p></p><p>A 10th lvl Half/Orc Fighter (Str20) could make a Whirlwindattack with an attack+16 and will do 2d6+10 against every Enemy he threatens (up to 8 humansized enemys, that could be calculated as 16d6+80 in a single round. Up to 176points of damage and no magic was used at all).</p><p></p><p>A 10th lvl Mage who toasts the same fighter will burn him and all those surrounding him with a fireball doing 10d6 (at least 5d6 if you consider all saves as "made") to 9 or more people(could be considered as at least 45d6 (up to 180 points of damage (more if you don't conider the Save as made)).</p><p></p><p>A 10th lvl rogue (dex20) with Weapon finesse/TWF/ambidextery,flanking an enemy will do two attacks+10, and one attack+5 with Damage 6d6 each (IF all attacks hit (which is not that likely with the later+5) this will be 18d6 (up to 108 points of Damage)).</p><p></p><p>Considering the enemys our DM throws at us, the fighter will do this stunt around 10 times, the Mage as long as he has fireballs avaible (thereafter he'll use nastier spells) and the rogue could do this around 4 times before he is so low on hit points that he must go to a healer.</p><p></p><p>Besides this, it always depends on the style of your campaing, how powerful the rogues sneak attack is: The DM of the campaign I'm currently gaming in LOVES to throw golems and undead at us. In fact my character is Level 8 by now and he has done around 5 sneak attacks in his whole live...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rankarrog, post: 33007, member: 1133"] Just my 2 cents: Let the rogue have his sneak attack, every class has it's way of dealing large amounts of damage, so why not the rogue? A 10th lvl Half/Orc Fighter (Str20) could make a Whirlwindattack with an attack+16 and will do 2d6+10 against every Enemy he threatens (up to 8 humansized enemys, that could be calculated as 16d6+80 in a single round. Up to 176points of damage and no magic was used at all). A 10th lvl Mage who toasts the same fighter will burn him and all those surrounding him with a fireball doing 10d6 (at least 5d6 if you consider all saves as "made") to 9 or more people(could be considered as at least 45d6 (up to 180 points of damage (more if you don't conider the Save as made)). A 10th lvl rogue (dex20) with Weapon finesse/TWF/ambidextery,flanking an enemy will do two attacks+10, and one attack+5 with Damage 6d6 each (IF all attacks hit (which is not that likely with the later+5) this will be 18d6 (up to 108 points of Damage)). Considering the enemys our DM throws at us, the fighter will do this stunt around 10 times, the Mage as long as he has fireballs avaible (thereafter he'll use nastier spells) and the rogue could do this around 4 times before he is so low on hit points that he must go to a healer. Besides this, it always depends on the style of your campaing, how powerful the rogues sneak attack is: The DM of the campaign I'm currently gaming in LOVES to throw golems and undead at us. In fact my character is Level 8 by now and he has done around 5 sneak attacks in his whole live... [/QUOTE]
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