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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 395713" data-attributes="member: 3146">You're being foolish. If the rulebooks say a certain thing then that either is both the letter and the spirit of the rules or the writers screwed up. What you're suggesting is "If anyone says I'm wrong about the rules, they're an idiotic rules lawyer and shouldn't be listened to." While that may have some appeal in the anonymous realm of an internet message board, it would be both arrogant and stupid to do so in real life.As to the original question, I actually believe that the consensus on the Infinite Monkeys board is correct. There are other ways that the "fights as if they had the feats" restriction applies as well.A ranger trying to pick locks with their off hand, for instance suffers the normal penalties for performing a skill check with an off hand. (They wouldn't if they had the ambidexterity feat proper because that applies to more than fighting). Granted, drawing weapons is much closer to fighting than making a skill check is but the point is that "light armor" is not the only significant restriction on the ranger's virtual feats. I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that drawing a weapon is not included in fighting. I don't think that it's indisputable either but I believe that the restrictive interpretation of "fighting as if" has the best case.</blockquote>