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<blockquote data-quote="Ziana" data-source="post: 4309029" data-attributes="member: 69885"><p>I really don't see the archery path as something one has to "suffer through".</p><p></p><p>We give up Two-Blade Fighting Style. Big deal: our damage depends on our bow, and most archers will probably pick up Weapon Focus: Bow in the first couple levels. Switching to melee would be a decrease in damage in most cases, and our combat style is based on remaining at range. This is a negligible difference.</p><p></p><p>Defensive Mobility instead of Toughness. It's a minor feat, but it will come in handy from time to time for archers, who will have the option of risking an OA to get back to range, and have a better chance of not getting hit doing it. I intend to take Toughness at first level for survivability, so that is definitely a nice feat, but I don't consider it a great loss that I get one and not the other for free. </p><p></p><p>I don't know how long any particular campaign will last. But I'd definitely want to play with the intention of getting Battlefield Archer eventually, and I don't believe I'm somehow missing out by going that route.</p><p></p><p>There are very few feats available that buff archer damage output. WF:Bow, Lethal Hunter, and the Wintertouched/Lasting Frost combo. Sly Hunter and Devastating critical are situational and fractional respectively. Most of the feats we'll be selecting will be defense or utility oriented. Not getting toughness to start with is seriously not a big loss, as it's one of many good options we'll likely take anyway. From what I've seen, TBF rangers have more feats that would be considered necessary to their style, from bastard sword proficiency to the armor proficiency and specialization feats. </p><p></p><p>If Wizards decides to buff the Archer path I certainly wouldn't complain, but as it is, we're not missing out on much and complaining just seems peevish. If a ranger-archer suits your playstyle, take the path and enjoy it. If not, go with TBFS if that's what you prefer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ziana, post: 4309029, member: 69885"] I really don't see the archery path as something one has to "suffer through". We give up Two-Blade Fighting Style. Big deal: our damage depends on our bow, and most archers will probably pick up Weapon Focus: Bow in the first couple levels. Switching to melee would be a decrease in damage in most cases, and our combat style is based on remaining at range. This is a negligible difference. Defensive Mobility instead of Toughness. It's a minor feat, but it will come in handy from time to time for archers, who will have the option of risking an OA to get back to range, and have a better chance of not getting hit doing it. I intend to take Toughness at first level for survivability, so that is definitely a nice feat, but I don't consider it a great loss that I get one and not the other for free. I don't know how long any particular campaign will last. But I'd definitely want to play with the intention of getting Battlefield Archer eventually, and I don't believe I'm somehow missing out by going that route. There are very few feats available that buff archer damage output. WF:Bow, Lethal Hunter, and the Wintertouched/Lasting Frost combo. Sly Hunter and Devastating critical are situational and fractional respectively. Most of the feats we'll be selecting will be defense or utility oriented. Not getting toughness to start with is seriously not a big loss, as it's one of many good options we'll likely take anyway. From what I've seen, TBF rangers have more feats that would be considered necessary to their style, from bastard sword proficiency to the armor proficiency and specialization feats. If Wizards decides to buff the Archer path I certainly wouldn't complain, but as it is, we're not missing out on much and complaining just seems peevish. If a ranger-archer suits your playstyle, take the path and enjoy it. If not, go with TBFS if that's what you prefer. [/QUOTE]
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