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<blockquote data-quote="Kaptain_Kantrip" data-source="post: 81479" data-attributes="member: 546">Hey, I like the new improved version you posted tonight. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> The paths add a nice flavorful touch to character creation! I wish all the classes had this variety. I may have to go back and tinker my anti-paladin now to work &quot;paths&quot; in, LOL...I am tempted to agree with Dr.Zoom re: too high of a bonus to track and wilderness lore, but I can see your point as well. But with six points+int/level, they should be able to make those rolls without the big bonus. I shudder to think what a rogue with a similar bonus to Hide and Move Silently would be like!!! Then again, track and wilderness lore are the defining skills of the class and is pretty much what rangers do every day out in the woods, hunting game, stalking enemies, trailblazing, etc. Hmmm. I hate to be wishy-washy and not say one way or the other whether to keep it or revise it, so I'll say keep it and see how it works. If it's too good, scale it back later after playtesting.As to ranger, paladin and many prestige classes not getting zero level spells, I totally agree with you. It is stupid and weird. Perhaps a space-saving measure in the books (LOL) or an attempt to make sure the &quot;lesser caster type&quot; spell lists sucked? I think I will have to change this in my anti-paladin as well...Anyway, nice job and thanks for the reciprocal feedback on my various alt.class posts! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kaptain_Kantrip, post: 81479, member: 546"] Hey, I like the new improved version you posted tonight. :) The paths add a nice flavorful touch to character creation! I wish all the classes had this variety. I may have to go back and tinker my anti-paladin now to work "paths" in, LOL... I am tempted to agree with Dr.Zoom re: too high of a bonus to track and wilderness lore, but I can see your point as well. But with six points+int/level, they should be able to make those rolls without the big bonus. I shudder to think what a rogue with a similar bonus to Hide and Move Silently would be like!!! Then again, track and wilderness lore are the defining skills of the class and is pretty much what rangers do every day out in the woods, hunting game, stalking enemies, trailblazing, etc. Hmmm. I hate to be wishy-washy and not say one way or the other whether to keep it or revise it, so I'll say keep it and see how it works. If it's too good, scale it back later after playtesting. As to ranger, paladin and many prestige classes not getting zero level spells, I totally agree with you. It is stupid and weird. Perhaps a space-saving measure in the books (LOL) or an attempt to make sure the "lesser caster type" spell lists sucked? I think I will have to change this in my anti-paladin as well... Anyway, nice job and thanks for the reciprocal feedback on my various alt.class posts! :D [/QUOTE]

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