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<blockquote data-quote="Mengu" data-source="post: 4366023" data-attributes="member: 65726"><p>I asked a similar question to customer service about this. You're gonna love their answer:</p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">Question</span></strong></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">I'm a little confused about when something is an attack, vs when it's an attack power. Here are a few questions that stem from this confusion:</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">If a Ranger is using Twin Strike, what is the order of events that happen for the attack?</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">Option A (following from the list bottom of page 269):</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">1. I choose to use Twin Strike</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">2. I choose two enemies for the attack.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">3. I make two attack rolls.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">4. I determine hit/miss.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">5. I make two damage rolls</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">Option B:</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">0. I choose to use Twin Strike, which gives me 2 attacks.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">1-5. I resolve these steps for the first attack</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">1-5. I resolve these steps for the second attack</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">If a Ranger is marked by enemy A, and decides to use Twin Strike to attacks enemies A and B, does he suffer the -2 penalty for being marked when attacking enemy B? What if he was instead using Split the Tree, does he suffer the penalty then?</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">If a Fighter is marked by enemy A, and decides to use Rain of Blows (assume with a flail), do all attacks generated from the power that don't target enemy A suffer the -2 penalty? Or is there no penalty as long as the primary target was enemy A?</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">If a Wizard is marked by enemy A, and decides to use Lightning Bolt, if the primary target is A, do the secondary attacks against different targets suffer the -2 penalty? If A is a secondary target, is the primary attack the only attack that suffers a -2 penalty?</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: paleturquoise">I hope this wasn't too many questions all in one, but I'm trying to get a good picture of when something is an attack, and how it interacts with abilities that trigger on an attack, and the timing of it all.</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">Answer</span></strong></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: orange">All attack powers are attacks. Anything that involves and attack roll is an attack.</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: orange">You can resolve your two attacks in either method depending on what you feel like doing.</span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="color: orange">When using Twin Strike or any other attack, if the character is attacking enemy A so there is no penalty.</span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mengu, post: 4366023, member: 65726"] I asked a similar question to customer service about this. You're gonna love their answer: [B][SIZE=3]Question[/SIZE][/B] [COLOR=#333333][COLOR=paleturquoise]I'm a little confused about when something is an attack, vs when it's an attack power. Here are a few questions that stem from this confusion:[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]If a Ranger is using Twin Strike, what is the order of events that happen for the attack?[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]Option A (following from the list bottom of page 269):[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]1. I choose to use Twin Strike[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]2. I choose two enemies for the attack.[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]3. I make two attack rolls.[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]4. I determine hit/miss.[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]5. I make two damage rolls[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]Option B:[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]0. I choose to use Twin Strike, which gives me 2 attacks.[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]1-5. I resolve these steps for the first attack[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]1-5. I resolve these steps for the second attack[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]If a Ranger is marked by enemy A, and decides to use Twin Strike to attacks enemies A and B, does he suffer the -2 penalty for being marked when attacking enemy B? What if he was instead using Split the Tree, does he suffer the penalty then?[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]If a Fighter is marked by enemy A, and decides to use Rain of Blows (assume with a flail), do all attacks generated from the power that don't target enemy A suffer the -2 penalty? Or is there no penalty as long as the primary target was enemy A?[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]If a Wizard is marked by enemy A, and decides to use Lightning Bolt, if the primary target is A, do the secondary attacks against different targets suffer the -2 penalty? If A is a secondary target, is the primary attack the only attack that suffers a -2 penalty?[/COLOR] [COLOR=paleturquoise]I hope this wasn't too many questions all in one, but I'm trying to get a good picture of when something is an attack, and how it interacts with abilities that trigger on an attack, and the timing of it all.[/COLOR] [/COLOR][B][SIZE=3]Answer[/SIZE][/B] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Arial][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=orange]All attack powers are attacks. Anything that involves and attack roll is an attack.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=orange]You can resolve your two attacks in either method depending on what you feel like doing.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=orange] [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=orange]When using Twin Strike or any other attack, if the character is attacking enemy A so there is no penalty.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][COLOR=orange] [/COLOR][/FONT] [/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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