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<blockquote data-quote="azarias" data-source="post: 4301008" data-attributes="member: 54755"><p>It depends on the wording of the power. </p><p></p><p>(1) If the power allows both melee and ranged weapons, then he can use it with the hand axes in melee <em>or</em> at range. Example: Careful Attack</p><p></p><p>(2) If the power only allows melee weapons, then he can use it with the hand axes in melee, but not at range. Example: Hit and Run</p><p></p><p>(3) If the power only allows ranged weapons, then he can use it with the hand axes at range, but not in melee. Example: Split the Tree</p><p></p><p>From the Equipment chapter:</p><p></p><p>'A melee weapon with the heavy thrown or light thrown property counts as a ranged weapon when thrown and can be used with ranged attack powers that have the weapon keyword'</p><p></p><p>...Now, although that looks clear enough, there is a complication, and I reckon it needs an errata: Ranger ranged weapon powers use Dex. The hand axe is a heavy thrown weapon, and uses Strength. If you use Careful Attack with a handaxe at range, do you use Str (as the equipment entry states) or Dex (as the power states)?</p><p></p><p>Specific beats general doesn't necessarily help here: the texts for the power and for the weapon are both very specific cases.</p><p></p><p>My hunch is that the power adjusts the weapon, and so supersedes the base weapon reading. But I've got nothing to back that up.</p><p></p><p>It makes a big difference to the character build, I can see, since if Str applies to the handaxe both in melee and at range, you can invest heavily in Strength.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="azarias, post: 4301008, member: 54755"] It depends on the wording of the power. (1) If the power allows both melee and ranged weapons, then he can use it with the hand axes in melee [I]or[/I] at range. Example: Careful Attack (2) If the power only allows melee weapons, then he can use it with the hand axes in melee, but not at range. Example: Hit and Run (3) If the power only allows ranged weapons, then he can use it with the hand axes at range, but not in melee. Example: Split the Tree From the Equipment chapter: 'A melee weapon with the heavy thrown or light thrown property counts as a ranged weapon when thrown and can be used with ranged attack powers that have the weapon keyword' ...Now, although that looks clear enough, there is a complication, and I reckon it needs an errata: Ranger ranged weapon powers use Dex. The hand axe is a heavy thrown weapon, and uses Strength. If you use Careful Attack with a handaxe at range, do you use Str (as the equipment entry states) or Dex (as the power states)? Specific beats general doesn't necessarily help here: the texts for the power and for the weapon are both very specific cases. My hunch is that the power adjusts the weapon, and so supersedes the base weapon reading. But I've got nothing to back that up. It makes a big difference to the character build, I can see, since if Str applies to the handaxe both in melee and at range, you can invest heavily in Strength. [/QUOTE]
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