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<blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 6007180" data-attributes="member: 5038"><p>I don't want to rely on multiclassing. I don't like requiring my players to hoop jump for viable concepts for a campaign. I think the spell casting ranger is a viable option despite my preference for non-spell casting rangers as default. Keyword being *option* much like how a somewhat common 3e house rules involved rangers giving up spell casting for bonus feats (which became an official option in Complete Champion). </p><p></p><p>Despite that, we are pretty much in agreement. As I wrote in the PAX thread:</p><p></p><p>The lightly armored stealthy survivalist warrior. Backgrounds and specialties should allow creation of the following</p><p>a. A lightly armored archer leading a rebellion from the forest (Robin Hood, himself, would, probably, be a Fighter with archery style and Survival skills since he was a nobleman trained in heavy armor and served in the Crusades before returning home) (Edit: the nobleman Robin Hood that served in the Crusades may have it's origin in a later telling from the 16th Century. Therefore, the light armored version would be appropriate for other versions)</p><p>b. A lightly armored outdoorsman/tracker living on the edges of civilized society. With an animal companion, one might have something along the lines of Grizzly Adams. Without an animal companion, one might have a character along the lines of Daniel Boone, Davy Crockett or even Lewis and Clark.</p><p>c. A non-raging lightly armored tribal warrior fighting with two weapons (see the movie Last of the Mohicans)</p><p>d. A sword and shield warrior working patrolling the borderlands as part of an organization protecting civilized society from humanoids or monsters</p><p>e. A two handed sword wielding beastmaster ( Beastmaster TV series or movie with various critter companions)</p><p>f. A military scout</p><p>g. an urban based ranger (see 3.0 Masters of the Wild, 3.5 Unearthed Arcana, 3.5 Cityscape Web Enhancement 1).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greg K, post: 6007180, member: 5038"] I don't want to rely on multiclassing. I don't like requiring my players to hoop jump for viable concepts for a campaign. I think the spell casting ranger is a viable option despite my preference for non-spell casting rangers as default. Keyword being *option* much like how a somewhat common 3e house rules involved rangers giving up spell casting for bonus feats (which became an official option in Complete Champion). Despite that, we are pretty much in agreement. As I wrote in the PAX thread: The lightly armored stealthy survivalist warrior. Backgrounds and specialties should allow creation of the following a. A lightly armored archer leading a rebellion from the forest (Robin Hood, himself, would, probably, be a Fighter with archery style and Survival skills since he was a nobleman trained in heavy armor and served in the Crusades before returning home) (Edit: the nobleman Robin Hood that served in the Crusades may have it's origin in a later telling from the 16th Century. Therefore, the light armored version would be appropriate for other versions) b. A lightly armored outdoorsman/tracker living on the edges of civilized society. With an animal companion, one might have something along the lines of Grizzly Adams. Without an animal companion, one might have a character along the lines of Daniel Boone, Davy Crockett or even Lewis and Clark. c. A non-raging lightly armored tribal warrior fighting with two weapons (see the movie Last of the Mohicans) d. A sword and shield warrior working patrolling the borderlands as part of an organization protecting civilized society from humanoids or monsters e. A two handed sword wielding beastmaster ( Beastmaster TV series or movie with various critter companions) f. A military scout g. an urban based ranger (see 3.0 Masters of the Wild, 3.5 Unearthed Arcana, 3.5 Cityscape Web Enhancement 1). [/QUOTE]
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