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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Witness" data-source="post: 549646" data-attributes="member: 1500">You do realize that by implimenting even half of your suggestions, the Ranger would become, by far, the most powerful class?  Unless you give other classes the same bonuses or comperable changes, the Ranger will be able to do almost anything and everything that any the other classes excell at.Rangers already have arguably the 2nd best skill list. While it can, I think be reasonably argued that they should get more skill points, I definately don't think they need more class skills.  As you say the Ranger "Ranges;" his skills focus on stealth, perception, and survival.  He doe not need nor should he get social skills like Disguise or Sense Motive.  Your hypothesis  that Ranger's are spies is flawed.  Ranger's aren'tt spies (at least not the kind you seem to think thay should be), they are scouts.  They sneak out, find wherre the enemies are camped then report back.  They don't dress up like an Orc and sneak in the enemy camp to assasinate the general.  That's what Rogues do, not Rangers.I also disagree tthat Ranggers should get full or expanded aces to Druid and/or Wizard's spell lists.  Rangers aren't supposed to be great spell casters, just as they are nt supposed to be greatt at  every skill.  While their spells are rarely useful in combat, they are more than good  enough to supplement their skills and fighting ability.You are too generous in giving out bonuses and special ablities, and overzealous in proposing changes.  While not the best at any one thing, the Ranger is a very good warrior, has many useful skills, and has a spell list that is useful in any wilderness settting. I agree that it could be improvedparticularly the favored enmy bonus, the Two Weapon Fighting ability, and the front loading problem.  Your changes unbalance the Ranger making him the  best at practically everything.By the way, I don't think this is therightforum to post this, it should  probably be in House Rules secttion.</blockquote>

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