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<blockquote data-quote="Witness" data-source="post: 578847" data-attributes="member: 1500"><p>For the standard PhB Ranger, Dex is less of a priority than it is for a Rogue or a Monk, but they have proficiency with shields and medium armor. The Rogue and Monk's skills and special abilities work better in combat because they likely have a higher Dex. Its harder to tumble past an opponent so you can sneak attack him in heavy armor, and Monk's lose their Wis bonus to AC in armor. Rogues and Monk's have these powers that function more effectively in light or no armor. The Ranger does not. The Favored Enemy bonus either works or it doesn't. In melee combat then, their only real move is charge in and attack. In that situation, not being able to wear medium armor or a shield, and having even slightly fewer hitpoints is, I think, a signifigant loss. And while their spells may be useful, they are pretty useless in a straight-out fight.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I'll ammend my argument to say, every feat EXCEPT Fav Enemy Strike. Improving the Ranger's tracking ability, and giving a few more non-offensive Druid spells would not signifigantly improve them and would add a little more flavor. I don't think the PHB Ranger is underpowered either. I do think the Ranger is less powerful in the sense that he doesn't have one thing he is really great at, but is instead good at a lot of things. The Ranger is far from perfect, but is not nearly as broken as many seem to think.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Witness, post: 578847, member: 1500"] For the standard PhB Ranger, Dex is less of a priority than it is for a Rogue or a Monk, but they have proficiency with shields and medium armor. The Rogue and Monk's skills and special abilities work better in combat because they likely have a higher Dex. Its harder to tumble past an opponent so you can sneak attack him in heavy armor, and Monk's lose their Wis bonus to AC in armor. Rogues and Monk's have these powers that function more effectively in light or no armor. The Ranger does not. The Favored Enemy bonus either works or it doesn't. In melee combat then, their only real move is charge in and attack. In that situation, not being able to wear medium armor or a shield, and having even slightly fewer hitpoints is, I think, a signifigant loss. And while their spells may be useful, they are pretty useless in a straight-out fight. I'll ammend my argument to say, every feat EXCEPT Fav Enemy Strike. Improving the Ranger's tracking ability, and giving a few more non-offensive Druid spells would not signifigantly improve them and would add a little more flavor. I don't think the PHB Ranger is underpowered either. I do think the Ranger is less powerful in the sense that he doesn't have one thing he is really great at, but is instead good at a lot of things. The Ranger is far from perfect, but is not nearly as broken as many seem to think. [/QUOTE]
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