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<blockquote data-quote="Wolfspirit" data-source="post: 541473" data-attributes="member: 737">Front loaded is the fact that you get a LOT of stuff at first level, the equivalent of three feats, good hit points, favored enemy etc.&nbsp; Then you have to wait 4 levels for any change (spells, if you have a high enough wisdom).&nbsp; So when all your friends are getting new abilities, cool new spells to try out, or even just an&nbsp; increased Lay On Hands... you're getting a few more hit points and a +1 bonus to your attack.&nbsp; Yay.&nbsp; So there's a definate min/max advantage to taking one level of ranger just for all the goodies you get, then going onto something else.I personally think that if anything should be changed about the ranger, it should be a removal of the &quot;two weapon&quot; feats.&nbsp; Sure, they help allow you to start out using two weapons if you'd like, but I'd prefer it if you had a list of feats and were told to choose two from them.&nbsp; Idealy it would be a mix of melee, ranged, heck I could see a ranger making use of riding feats from the start.&nbsp; It would make the class a lot more versatile, and allow for people that want to play a ranger but never use anything but their bow to get a benefeit from their class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wolfspirit, post: 541473, member: 737"] Front loaded is the fact that you get a LOT of stuff at first level, the equivalent of three feats, good hit points, favored enemy etc. Then you have to wait 4 levels for any change (spells, if you have a high enough wisdom). So when all your friends are getting new abilities, cool new spells to try out, or even just an increased Lay On Hands... you're getting a few more hit points and a +1 bonus to your attack. Yay. So there's a definate min/max advantage to taking one level of ranger just for all the goodies you get, then going onto something else. I personally think that if anything should be changed about the ranger, it should be a removal of the "two weapon" feats. Sure, they help allow you to start out using two weapons if you'd like, but I'd prefer it if you had a list of feats and were told to choose two from them. Idealy it would be a mix of melee, ranged, heck I could see a ranger making use of riding feats from the start. It would make the class a lot more versatile, and allow for people that want to play a ranger but never use anything but their bow to get a benefeit from their class. [/QUOTE]

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