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<blockquote data-quote="DustTC" data-source="post: 544457" data-attributes="member: 8919"><p>I think the main problem is that you can approach the skilled woodsman type of character much better with a multiclass character. If I really wanted to play a Robin Hood type, I'd go for a mix of Fighter and Rogue levels. If you feel your character needs some magic, take a few Druid levels as well (which also gives you Wilderness Lore and Animal Companions). A Druid5/Fighter5/Rogue5 is in most cases probably a much better approach to being a woodsman character then the Ranger will ever be.</p><p></p><p>This leaves us little or no reason to pick Ranger. Not every Ranger should be forced to take Favored Enemy (it should be a feat) and why would you want it in the first place if you can be a Fighter and take Weapon Specialization instead (much more appropriate to the concept to begin with)? What good is it to have 4 skill points/lvl when a Fighter/Rogue/Druid mix will have just as many? Why oh why don't Rangers get good Reflex saves (eventhough they are stuck with light and medium armor)? The whole Ranger class just reeks of a badly designed Prestige Class. Come to think of it, if it were a Prestige Class any sensible DM would probably ban it on sight (because of the front-loading).</p><p></p><p>The class is simply too much of a mish-mash of random abilities that have more to do with D&D traditions then any historical/literature example of what people think Rangers are.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, I do like Monte's BoHM Ranger, especially with the Favored Enemy Strike and Favored Enemy Critical Strike feats. You can actually make a decent archetypical Ranger out of that without having to resort to multiclassing. Even after that however, it's still a class that's narrow in application (compared to a Fighter/Rogue type woodsman) that the campaign you play would have to really justify taking Ranger (you know that you'll be up against Undead, Drow and Abberations for example). What we really need is a Ranger without the Favored Enemy, but then what you get is the beforementioned Fighter/Rogue/Druid.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DustTC, post: 544457, member: 8919"] I think the main problem is that you can approach the skilled woodsman type of character much better with a multiclass character. If I really wanted to play a Robin Hood type, I'd go for a mix of Fighter and Rogue levels. If you feel your character needs some magic, take a few Druid levels as well (which also gives you Wilderness Lore and Animal Companions). A Druid5/Fighter5/Rogue5 is in most cases probably a much better approach to being a woodsman character then the Ranger will ever be. This leaves us little or no reason to pick Ranger. Not every Ranger should be forced to take Favored Enemy (it should be a feat) and why would you want it in the first place if you can be a Fighter and take Weapon Specialization instead (much more appropriate to the concept to begin with)? What good is it to have 4 skill points/lvl when a Fighter/Rogue/Druid mix will have just as many? Why oh why don't Rangers get good Reflex saves (eventhough they are stuck with light and medium armor)? The whole Ranger class just reeks of a badly designed Prestige Class. Come to think of it, if it were a Prestige Class any sensible DM would probably ban it on sight (because of the front-loading). The class is simply too much of a mish-mash of random abilities that have more to do with D&D traditions then any historical/literature example of what people think Rangers are. Having said that, I do like Monte's BoHM Ranger, especially with the Favored Enemy Strike and Favored Enemy Critical Strike feats. You can actually make a decent archetypical Ranger out of that without having to resort to multiclassing. Even after that however, it's still a class that's narrow in application (compared to a Fighter/Rogue type woodsman) that the campaign you play would have to really justify taking Ranger (you know that you'll be up against Undead, Drow and Abberations for example). What we really need is a Ranger without the Favored Enemy, but then what you get is the beforementioned Fighter/Rogue/Druid. [/QUOTE]
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