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Rangers... the weakest of classes?
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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 445476" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>A number of these kinds of threads has had me rethinking my opinion of the ranger, and I think the ranger suffers from two main problems, none of which have to do with power:</p><p></p><p>1) The ranger never gets a chance to shine: While the jack of all trades role is well and good, every class should get a chance to shine once in a while, and imho, the ranger never gets a chance to do that. The perfect example is his favored enemy. This is a schtick for the ranger, and its nice, but its not really...cool. Rage is cool. Extra feats are cool. More spells is cool. Sneak attack is cool. +1 to some skills and damage is not cool, its...nice. </p><p></p><p>I think the ranger should get something special against his favored enemy, like a miss chance when they hit him, or a special ability or attack to use against them, something...cool.</p><p></p><p>Some of this is how you play your ranger, but I believe that it is an inherent flaw in the class.</p><p></p><p>2) You don't get a lot of bang for your buck as you progress in levels. A 15th level ranger is all well and good, but its a hard road to get up there. Most of the other classes get something preety decent every 3 levels or so, and usually at least something every couple of levels. For the ranger, you usually have to progress 4 or 5 levels to get the next big thing. And every level, you only get maybe 1 more spell and some good skils, which is nice, but not when comparing it to the other classes.</p><p></p><p>While I think the power of the ranger is balanced in terms of usefulness compared to the other parties, I think the ranger as a concept is not balanced to the other classes. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not going to post any fixes, there are lots in the house rules forum, including one I just made up a little while ago (which I'm tweaking btw<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> You could take a look at Monte's Alt. Ranger, but imo that ranger is too powerful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 445476, member: 5889"] A number of these kinds of threads has had me rethinking my opinion of the ranger, and I think the ranger suffers from two main problems, none of which have to do with power: 1) The ranger never gets a chance to shine: While the jack of all trades role is well and good, every class should get a chance to shine once in a while, and imho, the ranger never gets a chance to do that. The perfect example is his favored enemy. This is a schtick for the ranger, and its nice, but its not really...cool. Rage is cool. Extra feats are cool. More spells is cool. Sneak attack is cool. +1 to some skills and damage is not cool, its...nice. I think the ranger should get something special against his favored enemy, like a miss chance when they hit him, or a special ability or attack to use against them, something...cool. Some of this is how you play your ranger, but I believe that it is an inherent flaw in the class. 2) You don't get a lot of bang for your buck as you progress in levels. A 15th level ranger is all well and good, but its a hard road to get up there. Most of the other classes get something preety decent every 3 levels or so, and usually at least something every couple of levels. For the ranger, you usually have to progress 4 or 5 levels to get the next big thing. And every level, you only get maybe 1 more spell and some good skils, which is nice, but not when comparing it to the other classes. While I think the power of the ranger is balanced in terms of usefulness compared to the other parties, I think the ranger as a concept is not balanced to the other classes. I'm not going to post any fixes, there are lots in the house rules forum, including one I just made up a little while ago (which I'm tweaking btw:) You could take a look at Monte's Alt. Ranger, but imo that ranger is too powerful. [/QUOTE]
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