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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 447629" data-attributes="member: 2011">I think where there is smoke, there is fire.Nothing has really changed with regard to the Ranger. After seeing it in action for the last few years, there is still little to recommend it.The Ranger class is still ability front heavy.Compared to other classes, it gains new feats/new special abilities/new spell levels (total):Ranger: 10 (14) in 19 levelsBarbarian: 11 (22) in 19 levelsBard: 15 (15) in 17 levelsCleric: 14 (14) in 17 levelsDruid: 23 (31) in 17 levelsFighter: 16 (16) in 19 levelsMonk: 23 (28) in 19 levels (not including damage increase, AC increase, and movement increase)Paladin: 16 (20) in 17 levelsRogue: 15 (25) in 19 levelsSorcerer: 14 (14) in 17 levelsWizard: 18 (18) in 19 levelsAverage of other classes: 16.5 (20.3) in 18 levelsThis to me is the real downside of Rangers (other than them having to wait until 8th or 10th level to get Cure Light Wounds, sigh). They get &quot;new abilities&quot; on average every other level whereas most other classes average a new ability closer to once per level (or better).Every other &quot;combatant type&quot; (and in fact, every other class) does better.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 447629, member: 2011"] I think where there is smoke, there is fire. Nothing has really changed with regard to the Ranger. After seeing it in action for the last few years, there is still little to recommend it. The Ranger class is still ability front heavy. Compared to other classes, it gains new feats/new special abilities/new spell levels (total): Ranger: 10 (14) in 19 levels Barbarian: 11 (22) in 19 levels Bard: 15 (15) in 17 levels Cleric: 14 (14) in 17 levels Druid: 23 (31) in 17 levels Fighter: 16 (16) in 19 levels Monk: 23 (28) in 19 levels (not including damage increase, AC increase, and movement increase) Paladin: 16 (20) in 17 levels Rogue: 15 (25) in 19 levels Sorcerer: 14 (14) in 17 levels Wizard: 18 (18) in 19 levels Average of other classes: 16.5 (20.3) in 18 levels This to me is the real downside of Rangers (other than them having to wait until 8th or 10th level to get Cure Light Wounds, sigh). They get "new abilities" on average every other level whereas most other classes average a new ability closer to once per level (or better). Every other "combatant type" (and in fact, every other class) does better. [/QUOTE]

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